Nah, hard disagree. And I’m certainly not one to “glory in the queen’s death”, or anything.
Freedom of speech should mean freedom to say shit like this in the literal public square at any moment, including the royal funeral procession.
Arresting him was wrong, and is a bad look.
Your attitude is not conducive to a truly free society. We can debate whether the UK is a free society or not, but we certainly shouldn’t be supporting more restrictions on that freedom…
This would happen in just about any Commonwealth country, if this occurred there…
Unfortunate, but that’s the truth of it.
Hell, even in Ulster (where Charles visited, in the last few hours), I bet you that if someone had similarly heckled Charles, today, they would have been similarly arrested…
These are not true democracies. It’s important to hear that in mind. Me I say that as an Australian.
We’re not really a democracy. We never really have been, and certainly haven’t since at least the mid-90s.
You fuck with the Royals (these days), TPTB will fuck you up, unfortunately…
This is more complicated than you might think, but the simple explanation is that Scottish Police view it as more important to avoid “offence” to Royalists, right now, than to piss off the English establishment…
However, this is a mighty complicated question to answer, actually, so let’s just say… Scotland isn’t independent, the Queen was their mostly-beloved head of state, and this kind of thing (arresting someone for heckling a Royal) is… Very much in the zeitgeist, in places like Scotland, right now (would likely happen in Aus, too)…
Hell, just look at the comments, even here, defending the arrest. You’d be surprised by how many Americans, even, support this sort of police response, IMHO rather sadly…
In the US, the general perception has always been that leftists hate the monarchy just because they claim to hate any sort of white exercise of power, and conservatives dig the tradition and the illusion of historical continuity the monarchy provides.
Devil's advocate; I think the police would be having a word with anyone they saw heckling any funeral procession.
Until they're going after all the tweets, this isn't about the words being said, but about them directly spoiling the funeral for royalists.
That’s a fair comment.
But they also threatened a man with a …. blank piece of paper with arrest
For disrupting a funeral procession of a deceased monarch, yes.
There's a time and place to protest. A funeral is not the time nor the place.
This is absolutely a case of "play stupid games, win stupid prizes".
Nah, hard disagree. And I’m certainly not one to “glory in the queen’s death”, or anything.
Freedom of speech should mean freedom to say shit like this in the literal public square at any moment, including the royal funeral procession.
Arresting him was wrong, and is a bad look.
Your attitude is not conducive to a truly free society. We can debate whether the UK is a free society or not, but we certainly shouldn’t be supporting more restrictions on that freedom…
Makes sense. Politics or no, it's a solemn occasion and a very impressive display of pomp. The guy's heckling broke the mood.
Scotland - nonces get away with being nonces and the police arrest the people who call them out?
https://twitter.com/neglectedcarrot/status/1569405290889494529?s=21
I assure you, this isn’t just Scotland…
This would happen in just about any Commonwealth country, if this occurred there…
Unfortunate, but that’s the truth of it.
Hell, even in Ulster (where Charles visited, in the last few hours), I bet you that if someone had similarly heckled Charles, today, they would have been similarly arrested…
These are not true democracies. It’s important to hear that in mind. Me I say that as an Australian.
We’re not really a democracy. We never really have been, and certainly haven’t since at least the mid-90s.
You fuck with the Royals (these days), TPTB will fuck you up, unfortunately…
Mad lad
OK, I'm easily confused but I'm missing something here.
I though Scotland was at odds with England and the majority of Scots have wanted independence for a long time.
Why would the Scottish establishment criminalize slagging a Royal?
This is more complicated than you might think, but the simple explanation is that Scottish Police view it as more important to avoid “offence” to Royalists, right now, than to piss off the English establishment…
However, this is a mighty complicated question to answer, actually, so let’s just say… Scotland isn’t independent, the Queen was their mostly-beloved head of state, and this kind of thing (arresting someone for heckling a Royal) is… Very much in the zeitgeist, in places like Scotland, right now (would likely happen in Aus, too)…
Hell, just look at the comments, even here, defending the arrest. You’d be surprised by how many Americans, even, support this sort of police response, IMHO rather sadly…
In the US, the general perception has always been that leftists hate the monarchy just because they claim to hate any sort of white exercise of power, and conservatives dig the tradition and the illusion of historical continuity the monarchy provides.