Statement from Null on KF
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Stormer, ConPro, TwoX, Megalia, Ovarit...they're all the same fucking shit and I wouldn't lose sleep over any of them being shut down. I mean, I cheered when the TERFs got their marching orders from Reddit.
I think it would be better to gain control and use it to shut down our enemies than have some sort of non-aggression pact. Ultimate free speech works in a world where everyone is committed to that principle, but there are plenty of groups who want to use that free speech to gain power to do their own censoring.
"When I have no power, I support free speech according to your principles. When I have power, I take your speech, because that's according to mine."
Not sure where I heard that, but it's very apt.
Whooooooooosh
As per usual, Imp more interested in focusing on the trees for the forest.
Which seems like the ultimate irony that a guy on some sort of ban from KIA2 half the time apparently has no problem with the permanent denial of free speech to others with whom he disagrees.
Not really. You'd be surprised just how few truly care or wish to uphold free speech, or even freedom at all. Most are more than willing to sell out so they can bring about their brand of Successful Society™, complete with all the same tyrannies as before but this time it's flying their flag instead of the awful flag from The Other Side™.
Most people are eager to utilise power for their own ideals, thinking themselves immune to corrupting nature that power brings.
The irony lies in the fact that Imp acknowledges this with the quote he pulled while unironically calling for the censorship of his ideological opposition. The only truth here is that Imp is telling on himself: that he knows he would censor those he disagrees with, and projects that onto everyone else. He wishes he could be tyrannical, and thinks everyone else wants that as well.
She, not he
What part of "Nuremberg Trials for feminists" gave away that I have no belief in re-integrating them or their ideology into society?
You act like you exposed something, but really, it's obvious that I want a world without feminism and would do anything (except violence) to achieve it. The amount of lives they have destroyed is unparalleled.
As much of a lolcow as imp is, he's not totally wrong. If the ideological right ever does attain power again we must apply it on our enemy with no mercy and no quarter. We must make McCarthy's inquisition look like a timeout for commies in comparison.
It's not irony. My idea would censor the people that are so committed to silencing me as well as the people I consider the root of all evil.
I don't want to be constantly speaking about the enemy anyway. If I get censored but feminism and stormcuckery goes with me, it was worth it.
I'm not the right person to be speaking after the enemy's collapse, the focus will be on trying to heal the division, something I don't wish to do.
I'll be a normie again, and I'm okay with that.
Yes you do. It's why you keep coming back.
You get off on it.
Just saying, 99% of people would silence you, playing by your rules.
It's the people who are committed to free speech who, even if they don't agree with you, want you to be able to voice your opinions.
Seriously, to use the communist analogy, you'd be the first against the wall if the world worked the way you seem to want it to.
That's really funny how the people in this thread are almost as much as enthusiastic about not denying free speech to anyone as they're about throwing everybody into "death camps" (https://kotakuinaction2.win/p/15JTyZjv5F/x/c/4OdgvrahJgu).
The same thread where Imp's just sperging only about his "Nurnberg II" and this is deemed deranged and extremist.
It's almost like...this place is made up of more than one person, with more than one idea.
Also, those ideas aren't even mutually exclusive. "Death camps" is certainly a tad far, but I get why people would feel like they aren't being allowed peaceful outcomes by the powers that be. One of the defining characteristics of our cultural opponents is their oppressive attitudes, fanatical and Zerg-like takeover of any and all institutions, and othering of all opponents.
One could believe very strongly in the principles and concepts of free speech, and still think it's necessary to put people in ze camps. That's not me, for the record, but just pointing out it's not contradictory. I do think there might come a time where extreme action is the right solution. I don't want it, but I can certainly see it, too; the current elites won't give up power, want us destroyed, and don't seem to want to allow a peaceful solution. I also strongly believe in the ideals of free speech.
Uh, that is deranged and extreme, because the target is so broad. Putting women on trial is a tad different than dealing harshly with the communists. Rationale matters. Imp is talking essentially genocide. That's extreme.
Again, it really comes down to different people here calling for different things. Plenty of the people driving this insanity probably deserve the camps. Does that mean I'm going to call for it? Nope. But I can see why people would. These people are absolute scum who need to be removed from power, ideally peacefully.
So u/TheImpossible1 is being hated, and more importantly being banned literally most of the time (denying his freedom of speech at that) for his revenge fantasies about an "incel revolution" to be followed by "mass arrests", but then literally just below it the talk of herding everyone deemed a "regressive leftist" into "death camps" gets only upvotes and you say is a "tad far" and not literally like a cartoonish Nazi caricature of American rightoids from the paranoid nightmares of the said "regressive leftists" (proving them right in a way, or should I say proving them left). These moral and otherwise double standards right here on this forum are just hilarious, you know?
I never said that. I said put forward the leaders of their movements. The followers can go through Denazification and we can pray that's enough.
I mean, if feminists were silenced, there'd be no need for me to speak. My political goal would have been achieved to some extent.
It would be time to pivot away from gender war and try to fix the damage they did.
A quick reminder what MGTOWs would be like in power.
Maybe the feminists were right about them (specifically). Maybe the toxic masculinity, patriarchy crap they spread everywhere is actually just describing MGTOWs?
Despite his presence over there, TheImpossible1 does not represent Men Going Their Own Way, which doesn't espouse any particular political belief or ideological aims. There is no stereotypical MGTOWs, it's all kinds of men who have decided to give up on women - or feel like it's been decided for them - and now live for themselves.
Now a portion of MGTOW could be stereotypical male chauvinist types which explains their 1) past relationships with feminist bimbos, and 2) their failures at maintaining those relationships, but the closest thing to "political activity" or activism I've seen there is along the same lines as MRAs: Fixing family courts to be less biased towards the woman. MGTOW aren't usually delusional enough to think they'll ever be "in charge" like TheImp. Taking power is the complete opposite of their philosophy.
Treating feminists like they belong in society has gone so well...