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Putin to shut off Nordstream 1 natural gas until sanctions are lifted (archive.ph)
posted 2 years ago by redman012 2 years ago by redman012 +76 / -2
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– SoctaticMethod1 32 points 2 years ago +32 / -0

So now it's a test of if Germany was lying about how much gas it's stockpiled as Putin won't back down.

If they aren't 100% on the level about their supply they're really screwed as they either have to give in to Russia which shows them as weak or let people freeze which might actually get Germans pissed enough to turn on their own establishment.

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– DT990P 25 points 2 years ago +25 / -0

It was always clearly bullshit. Even if they filled their gas storage 100% that’s only like 30% of the total supply used in an average winter.

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– Lurker404 18 points 2 years ago +18 / -0

Not to mention that Germany also has to supply all those neighboring countries that refused to buy gas from Russia, like Poland.

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– AntonioOfVenice 21 points 2 years ago +24 / -3

Germans, turning on their own establishment?

Never happened, and it never will. Valkyrie aside, even rank-and-file communists and Social Democrats were appalled by the assassination attempt on Hitler, which only empowered him further.

This is why people calling for political assassinations are idiots.

(Yes, I know you weren't talking about assassination, but I thought it was relevant.)

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– Steampunk_Moustache 29 points 2 years ago +29 / -0

This is why people calling for political assassinations are idiots.

Indeed. You need political mass murders of entire rooms of politicians. Saddam Hussein understood this.

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– AntonioOfVenice 8 points 2 years ago +9 / -1

That also only works if you are in power.

Excluded from power, it would not work. There is nothing more replaceable than a politician.

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– ItsOkayToBeWight 9 points 2 years ago +9 / -0

If politician becomes one of the most dangerous jobs, people will stop lining up for it.

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... continue reading thread?
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– RoulerBleu 17 points 2 years ago +17 / -0

Germany :

''Hahaha stupid Russia, I have all the gas I need stockpiled to outlast your decline to sell more to us! Hahaha, so it's pointless to stop selling to us! Hahaha! Better keep selling to us anyway!''

Russia :

''Niet.''

Germany :

''... Scheiße. Well citizens, time for another lockdown, blackouts and it's a crime to heat your house above 65F. Also, anyone protesting is a Russian bot and will be jailed.''

Just you wait the diverse migrants start ''protesting'' in German cities. cheff kiss

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– GimmeFuelGimmeFire 6 points 2 years ago +6 / -0

What about when the Weimar government was defeated and replaced in the 1920s? Were those communists not "the establishment" of their time?

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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 2 years ago +9 / -2

It wasn't, and they weren't.

First of all, the Communists opposed the Weimar government and supported the Nazis in dismantling it.

Secondly, the Weimarians never purged the army, civil service or judiciary from monarchists. The deep state was firmly on the side of the opponents of the Weimar regime.

Finally, the end of Weimar came when establishment titan Franz von Papen persuaded Hindenburg's son to have his senile father appoint the "Bohemian corporal" chancellor, and thought he could keep Hitler under control.

Anyway, my comment was about the population rising up against the regime, not elite substitution. Germans are law-abiding people, and that is why the Nazis made a great show of legality.

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– Hogbutcher 4 points 2 years ago +4 / -0

Well put.

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– yamez 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

The Nazi's didn't just make a show of legality. They were a very legalistic regime, with a massive court apparatus.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 3 points 2 years ago +3 / -0

You expect the lefty green coalition to actually have had some brain? Brave of you to assume.

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– OldBullLee 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

the lefty green coalition

How about the leafy green cauliflower coalition? Cauliflowers sorta look like brains.

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– AnotherSchwarzesMark 2 points 2 years ago +2 / -0

Do they have one? I doubt it... Might be they seek one than it would make sense again.

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