V for vendetta is hilarious, since the author is a mental child who believed that England under Thatcher was the height authoritarian tyranny. He may have been the first "literally Hitler" example out in the wild.
Rorschach was also clearly the only character with an unfailing sense of justice lol and was willing to die because he refused to compromise with evil.
Exactly. Dr. Manhattan's entire philosophy of "the global good" and the ends justifying the means is explicitly rejected in the foundational principles of American government.
I always saw him as the villain. A creature whose transcendence to godhood deprived him of the fundamental understanding of the human experience that should have made this obvious to him.
I know Moore intended Watchmen to be a critique of the US/Russian arms race and threat of nuclear war, but I'm free to take the lessons and meaning I want from his work.
This is very interesting! Popular perceptions of the French Revolution and reality have a vast gulf between them.
Monarchy as a form of government is not inherently centralized or not. It can be extremely decentralized, as under high feudalism in the 11th century in France - where lords were de facto independent and some even banned the king from traveling through their fiefs. Or it can be extremely centralized, as the Bourbon monarchy after the restoration in 1814 was, because obviously it did not dismantle the increased power that the Revolution bequeathed it.
The ancien regime did not fall because it was too strong, or too centralized, but because it was too weak. It could not force the nobles to give up their tax exempt status (which is what led to the summoning of the Estates General in 1789), as they shouted tyranny whenever the monarchy tried to reform (see the Maupoue coup), and it had to respect a patchwork of varying privileges and statuses by region. So it was unable to fully exploit the enormous resources in France.
The revolution swept all of that away. All local institutions, privileges and immunities were abolished. All local states were abolished, and France got its modern form with departements - which intentionally did not track regional lines as they wanted to destroy regional loyalties - which prefects appointed from Paris to implement the center's wishes. And considering the fact that they beheaded anyone who got in their way, they got their way. So that was very centralized.
If you are American, the best comparison would be if a given Congress illegally seized power from the executive, and then proceeded to abolish all states, state constitutions, state laws, and drew new, arbitrary lines, appointed officials for these areas and passed laws from Washington for all these areas.
The one thing that people should understand about creatives - they are adept at being able to pull loose threads together to create a vision of reality that is very possible, but have no ability to see what is going on right in front of their own faces.
It is a left brain/right brain thing - from a more esoteric standpoint, a feminine/masculine dilemma.
Hideo Kojima is another good example of a creative that predicted the future well in advance, but is shilling for the system that he warned against back in 2002 in MGS2.
V for vendetta is hilarious, since the author is a mental child who believed that England under Thatcher was the height authoritarian tyranny. He may have been the first "literally Hitler" example out in the wild.
It was a decent book, it's just that Moore's childish political understanding made him mix up which side would be the one seizing power.
Alan "I wrote Rorschach to be a racist psychopath, why do people think he is the most heroic character?" Moore?
Rorschach was also clearly the only character with an unfailing sense of justice lol and was willing to die because he refused to compromise with evil.
Exactly. Dr. Manhattan's entire philosophy of "the global good" and the ends justifying the means is explicitly rejected in the foundational principles of American government.
I always saw him as the villain. A creature whose transcendence to godhood deprived him of the fundamental understanding of the human experience that should have made this obvious to him.
I know Moore intended Watchmen to be a critique of the US/Russian arms race and threat of nuclear war, but I'm free to take the lessons and meaning I want from his work.
Did he really say that?
There was nothing that indicated that as far as I know.
Something something HBO series. Which he fully supported.
Alan "My ideal Batman story is where Joker's wife has a miscarriage and then he molests the Gordons" Moore.
Quite rich. Isn't the V character supposed to be an anarchist? Literally the opposite of the centralizing tyrants of the French Revolution.
Though they did threaten to bomb the building housing the National Assembly if the Girondins were not removed, so I guess he just loves mayhem.
Wait, what? Centralizing tyrants?
Isn't a monarchy the definition of centralized power, and the revolution was ending that?
Or did you mean the ones revolting were centralizing tyrants?
This is very interesting! Popular perceptions of the French Revolution and reality have a vast gulf between them.
Monarchy as a form of government is not inherently centralized or not. It can be extremely decentralized, as under high feudalism in the 11th century in France - where lords were de facto independent and some even banned the king from traveling through their fiefs. Or it can be extremely centralized, as the Bourbon monarchy after the restoration in 1814 was, because obviously it did not dismantle the increased power that the Revolution bequeathed it.
The ancien regime did not fall because it was too strong, or too centralized, but because it was too weak. It could not force the nobles to give up their tax exempt status (which is what led to the summoning of the Estates General in 1789), as they shouted tyranny whenever the monarchy tried to reform (see the Maupoue coup), and it had to respect a patchwork of varying privileges and statuses by region. So it was unable to fully exploit the enormous resources in France.
The revolution swept all of that away. All local institutions, privileges and immunities were abolished. All local states were abolished, and France got its modern form with departements - which intentionally did not track regional lines as they wanted to destroy regional loyalties - which prefects appointed from Paris to implement the center's wishes. And considering the fact that they beheaded anyone who got in their way, they got their way. So that was very centralized.
If you are American, the best comparison would be if a given Congress illegally seized power from the executive, and then proceeded to abolish all states, state constitutions, state laws, and drew new, arbitrary lines, appointed officials for these areas and passed laws from Washington for all these areas.
Do you just know nothing about the French Revolution?
The one thing that people should understand about creatives - they are adept at being able to pull loose threads together to create a vision of reality that is very possible, but have no ability to see what is going on right in front of their own faces.
It is a left brain/right brain thing - from a more esoteric standpoint, a feminine/masculine dilemma.
Hideo Kojima is another good example of a creative that predicted the future well in advance, but is shilling for the system that he warned against back in 2002 in MGS2.