I used to frequent a site that I have abandoned because it turned into the posters on the left shutting down any opinions from the right with these sorts of accusations. If they didn't accuse you of "sealioning" it was "gaslighting" or "whataboutism". When they got challenged on their intolerance, they would counter with "the paradox of tolerence"; which basically says it's okay for so-called tolerant people to squelch what they define as intolerance.
The claim of Whataboutism is heavily abused by everyone. It's only a fallacy of reasoning when used to completely distract from the argument and change the subject. Not when you're pointing out that the other side is not arguing in good faith, or the original claim has no merit. (say because they are arguing that something is rare and unbelievable and deserving of scrutiny, and you're saying it's not because here are some other common examples) In fact the abuse of the term itself should be some kind of fallacy.
Any philosophy system that has a paradox is invalid. Paradoxes cannot exist. All the paradox of tolerance shows is that intolerance is the correct system.
Except that's not at all what the paradox of tolerance actually says. The people the original essay warns about are those who refuse to argue in good faith and shut down debate instead, i.e. exactly the ones who now shrill "paradox of tolerance!"
I remember hearing it a lot on KIA Prime back in the day. Back then it was used to refer to a feminist saying something stupid on Twitter and getting a reply asking her to prove the insane bullshit she offered up as fact, which of course qualifies as harassment and stalking.
Basically, it's when a male dares speak to a woman without permission.
Oh, by the way, the author is a Twitter bluecheck with pronouns in his bio. So yes, I absolutely think he was begging for a crumb with this comic.
Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.
It is complete bullshit.
I used to frequent a site that I have abandoned because it turned into the posters on the left shutting down any opinions from the right with these sorts of accusations. If they didn't accuse you of "sealioning" it was "gaslighting" or "whataboutism". When they got challenged on their intolerance, they would counter with "the paradox of tolerence"; which basically says it's okay for so-called tolerant people to squelch what they define as intolerance.
These people are masters at gaslighting. The sane half of the country is stuck in an abusive relationship with a psycho.
We need to start applying that to the commies ASAP.
The claim of Whataboutism is heavily abused by everyone. It's only a fallacy of reasoning when used to completely distract from the argument and change the subject. Not when you're pointing out that the other side is not arguing in good faith, or the original claim has no merit. (say because they are arguing that something is rare and unbelievable and deserving of scrutiny, and you're saying it's not because here are some other common examples) In fact the abuse of the term itself should be some kind of fallacy.
Any philosophy system that has a paradox is invalid. Paradoxes cannot exist. All the paradox of tolerance shows is that intolerance is the correct system.
The "paradox of intolerance" is jewish pilpul
The only time I see "whataboutism" used by the left is to shut down anyone calling out their blatant double standards.
Except that's not at all what the paradox of tolerance actually says. The people the original essay warns about are those who refuse to argue in good faith and shut down debate instead, i.e. exactly the ones who now shrill "paradox of tolerance!"
questioning your betters is haram
Sealioning:
A term used by wokesters to shut down objective debate.
I remember hearing it a lot on KIA Prime back in the day. Back then it was used to refer to a feminist saying something stupid on Twitter and getting a reply asking her to prove the insane bullshit she offered up as fact, which of course qualifies as harassment and stalking.
Basically, it's when a male dares speak to a woman without permission.
Oh, by the way, the author is a Twitter bluecheck with pronouns in his bio. So yes, I absolutely think he was begging for a crumb with this comic.
Never heard of it.
I read the comic and I still don't get what "sealioning" is
Sealioning (also sea-lioning and sea lioning) is a type of trolling or harassment that consists of pursuing people with relentless requests for evidence, often tangential or previously addressed, while maintaining a pretense of civility and sincerity ("I'm just trying to have a debate"), and feigning ignorance of the subject matter.
AKA Concern trolling