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US Marshals: "On August 21, 1992, the compromised surveillance of fugitive Randy Weaver on a remote Idaho mountain caused pain and heartache to some of the agency’s best-trained deputy US Marshals. One of those deputies, William Francis Degan, died that day:" (archive.ph)
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– Smith1980 28 points 3 years ago +28 / -0

I remember when I looked into the Weaver story I was shocked by how different the facts were from the official story. Same thing with Waco

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– Adamrises 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

Well that's because certain little factoids from the case look so incredibly bad that they had no defense possible. So they had to concoct entire narratives to avoid talking about them.

That's why Ruby Ridge focused so heavily on the "religious Nazi extremist" angle, and Waco had them try to concoct some "they set the fires themselves, it was all suicide!!" story.

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– Smith1980 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

Exactly

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– SupremeReader 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Practically everyone were on the "religious Nazi extremist" side during the siege and especially during the trial (when Randy Weaver's advocate didn't even actually defend him as just attacked the state), including mainstream media. The NYT called it the feds' "PR disaster".

The said defender when first meeting his client:

"My name is Gerry Spence" I began. "I'm the lawyer you've been told about. Before we begin to talk I want you to understand that I do not share any of your political or religious beliefs. Many of my dearest friends are Jews. My daughter is married to a Jew. My sister is married to a black man. She has adopted a black child. I deplore what the Nazis stand for. If I defend you I will not defend your political beliefs or your religious beliefs, but your right as an American citizen to a fair trial." His quiet answer was, "That is all I ask."

And then he demolished the prosecution by just attacking their lies, and rested his case. And so Weaver got convicted of only his failure to appear in court in the original shotgun case, and then he and the family settled their own lawsuit "against the United States and its employees" for a couple million.

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– Ahaus667 19 points 3 years ago +19 / -0

I think one of the most poignant things Sowell ever said was that that there was always a correct answer and always a political answer. The same thing can be seen in his works, there is always a correct history and a political history. Like with the answers, society is taught the latter, with the former waiting for those willing to brush the dust off it’s tomes.

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