Seriously, we condemned Russia for invading Ukraine and have probably acknowledged that they most likely killed civilians while trying to bombard enemy positions, while also condemning Ukraine for lying for propaganda purposes, persecuting dissidents and political rivals, and using barrier troops to force men to fight instead of letting them flee the corrupt shithole.
Meanwhile, the regressive left and globalist conspirators aggressively and blindly defended Ukraine while intensifying the Russia bashing to the point where regressive leftist russophobia was documented to have escalated.
In all honesty, fuck everyone involved in this retarded conflict that could have been avoided with better diplomacy.
Who the hell cares about the yapping of these worthless curs?
We, their subjects, regard them with absolute contempt, and so should Putin.
Turns out, corrupt Western leaders don't decide what Russia does. Womp womp.
It's not even a real country. It's a corrupt shiithole willed into existence by the Bolshies. If they want 'decommunization', they can have it... Ukraine ceases to exist.
How so? For pointing out that Western leaders don't care about Ukrainian lives, except insofar as they can instrumentalize them to advance their own personal interests?
My objective is that the West lose a puppet/ally. Better Ukraine than Taiwan. At least Taiwan does well by its people. The Ukrainian 'state', on the other than, has been such a monumental failure, that it will only be for the benefit of the people if it is put out of it misery.
The People's Republics?
Ukraine was conquered by the Bolsheviks. (About half of it, at least.)
It was ironically a People's Republic. You're apparently a fan of this concept, but only if it means a Russian colony.
The Bolsheviks then murdered millions of locals in the east Ukraine, and imported Russian colonists in their place.
We care so much about their lives, Poland is now just full of Ukrainian refugees on our dime.
You can't be serious. You're not actually going to declare Polish cities like Lwow to be "Ukrainian", right? That would be helluva Stockholm Syndrome.
Do remind me, all these "Ukrainian areas". What was the Ukrainian state they were part of in 1913?
It's a meaningless concept, like every state and party name.
Almost every major Ukrainian city, save Kiev, was founded by the Russian Empire. Regardless, you actually want to argue that the borders of the current Ukrainian state are precisely coterminous with where ethnic Little Russians lived in 1921?
Poland and Hungary are not the West. They're respectable countries. I'll believe Polish people care about Ukrainians, not ze Germans and the rest of the EU though, nor the Americans who are inciting them to get themselves killed.
No one normal thinks about Lviv as "a Polish city" except historically and nostalgically.
There was no Poland in 1913 too. "What a great argument, surely would work," you thought, probably. You know what, just fuck it. I tried, I'm done, this is a stupid fucking conversation and I'm wasting my time with you.
I'm talking about 'historically'. I was curious, so I looked up what the ethnic composition of Lwow was in 1945 when the Bolshies stole it. Turns out, it was overwhelmingly Poland. I also discovered that large parts of Eastern Europe were ethnically cleansed of Poles.
So how come you referred to Polish areas as being 'half of Ukraine' possessed by Poland? Or did you mean half of MODERN DAY Ukraine. That would make more sense.
Now do before 1795. There was never any Ukrainian state, because it's a made up people. I simply do not see why I am to be outraged on behalf of the regime if Russia restores the status quo ante 1991.
And to speak of the Ukrainian People's Republic (Putin didn't tell you about it, I know), our president (one of your "Western leaders don't care about Ukrainian lives") on the 100th anniversary:
https://www.president.pl/news/president-wants-polish-ukrainian-soldiers-from-1920-jointly-honoured,37106
These Ukrainian soldiers (who were then betrayed by Poland in the peace treaty with Russia, which is a great shame, and the Bolsheviks should have been fought into complete extinction no matter what sacrifice it had to take because the entire humanity was at the stake) apparently fought for their country against the Bolsheviks "willing Ukraine into existence", according to you, being retarded.
Just STOP BELIEVING THE FUCKING RUSSIAN LIES. Is it hard to you? Something blocking your brain?
I told you Poland is not part of the West.
Also, it seems like you're not clear on my position. I love the West. I despise Western leaders for their ignorance, their cowardice, their corruption, their destruction of our countries and their warmongering.
Are you sure Poland could have not only driven them out, but removed them from power?
Well yeah. Name one time when there was a country named 'Ukraine' before. A short-lived Republic which couldn't hold its own against a bunch of ragged Bolsheviks doesn't count.
Stop believing the lies of the Drag Queen Empire, and I think we can come to an agreement.
Lmao fuck you, we've been part of the West (the Latin Civilisation) for more than 1,000 years.
The war would have been hard, and extremely costly in all ways possible, but if they had a hindsight knowing what lies ahead for them and the world they would never fucking stop before COMPLETELY EXTERMINATING the Bolsheviks once and for all.
And not alone because the various oppressed nations and groups would rise up again, as they have done before. Including Russia's own starving peasants (as they did anyway) and even disaffected Red Army soldiers (as they did anyway too, famously in Kronstadt, and with many desertions and mutinies on various occasions). The Ukrainians in Ukraine of course too.
Russia, so much larger, and its "short lived republic", and later all the Whites and other Color Revolutions "couldn't stand to a bunch of ragged Bolsheviks" in the civil war, are you really trying to make the most retarded arguments again? Why am I wasting my time on you?
Yeah, the good stuff. Not the bad stuff of today.
The Czech Legion should have done that. Too bad.
The sailors at Kronstadt were communists. They just did not want a Bolshevik dictatorship, but free competition among socialist parties.
Cute.
The White forces consisted of the regime that had just been thoroughly crushed by the Germans, Brusilov notwithstanding, to the point that the entire regime collapsed.