Seriously, we condemned Russia for invading Ukraine and have probably acknowledged that they most likely killed civilians while trying to bombard enemy positions, while also condemning Ukraine for lying for propaganda purposes, persecuting dissidents and political rivals, and using barrier troops to force men to fight instead of letting them flee the corrupt shithole.
Meanwhile, the regressive left and globalist conspirators aggressively and blindly defended Ukraine while intensifying the Russia bashing to the point where regressive leftist russophobia was documented to have escalated.
In all honesty, fuck everyone involved in this retarded conflict that could have been avoided with better diplomacy.
You can't be serious. You're not actually going to declare Polish cities like Lwow to be "Ukrainian", right? That would be helluva Stockholm Syndrome.
Do remind me, all these "Ukrainian areas". What was the Ukrainian state they were part of in 1913?
It's a meaningless concept, like every state and party name.
Almost every major Ukrainian city, save Kiev, was founded by the Russian Empire. Regardless, you actually want to argue that the borders of the current Ukrainian state are precisely coterminous with where ethnic Little Russians lived in 1921?
Poland and Hungary are not the West. They're respectable countries. I'll believe Polish people care about Ukrainians, not ze Germans and the rest of the EU though, nor the Americans who are inciting them to get themselves killed.
No one normal thinks about Lviv as "a Polish city" except historically and nostalgically.
There was no Poland in 1913 too. "What a great argument, surely would work," you thought, probably. You know what, just fuck it. I tried, I'm done, this is a stupid fucking conversation and I'm wasting my time with you.
I'm talking about 'historically'. I was curious, so I looked up what the ethnic composition of Lwow was in 1945 when the Bolshies stole it. Turns out, it was overwhelmingly Poland. I also discovered that large parts of Eastern Europe were ethnically cleansed of Poles.
So how come you referred to Polish areas as being 'half of Ukraine' possessed by Poland? Or did you mean half of MODERN DAY Ukraine. That would make more sense.
Now do before 1795. There was never any Ukrainian state, because it's a made up people. I simply do not see why I am to be outraged on behalf of the regime if Russia restores the status quo ante 1991.
The Bolsheviks have annexed Lviv city in 1939, in 1944 they only just returned. In 1940 they deported more than million people people east (Kazakhstan mostly), but in 1944 they just organized a population exchange with Poland. Then a perhaps million Ukrainians died in the Soviet Union, as a result of either starvation (again, and mostly) and in repressions against the nationalist resistance which was much more serious threat than in Poland or anywhere else in the Soviet Union combined (there were various "forest brothers" also elsewhere).
Before 1795 there was no Czechia, no Slovakia, no Belarus, no Finland, no Estonia, no Latvia, NO RUSSIAN FEDERATION, no Canada, no Mexico, America just appeared, shut the fuck up with this dumb fucking imperialist mindset, Jesus Christ.
OK, now I'm going to tell you to shut up, because this is a fallacious argument.
The point was that any country that existed before 1795, is a real country. This argument says nothing about countries that did not exist before 1795. You denied the antecedent, which is almost as bad as affirming the consequent.
Ukraine has never been a country. Ironically, in the infinitesimal chance that they do manage to beat back Russia, this war may make them a proper nation, as opposed to a fake puppet one.