One of them is almost entirely an argument about what is truth, which is a really interesting question but neither of them say anything worthwhile about it. If they had started to seriously approach truth, they would have risked shattering liberalism. It's not worth listening to at all.
It would force them to examine the sources of their foundational assumptions and reveal some of the contradictions. They both operate off the idea that various liberal ideas are derived scientifically in the same way gravity is derived by observing an apple fall, which is absurd on its face. If they realized that all laws are by nature a codification of metaphysically derived morality, they'd have to take a hard look at their own religious principles which often conflict with observable reality, such as racial differences or the societal harm caused by LGBT.
Several, they're a good watch, but the first one which was on Sam's podcast was very bad. It may be worth listening to hear the trainwreck, but the second one on Sam's podcast was good and all subsequent ones were good.
Any particular examples you recall?
I only know about Sam Harris in passing from his old Rogan appearances and his feuds with Jordan Peterson.
One of them is almost entirely an argument about what is truth, which is a really interesting question but neither of them say anything worthwhile about it. If they had started to seriously approach truth, they would have risked shattering liberalism. It's not worth listening to at all.
Why is this?
It would force them to examine the sources of their foundational assumptions and reveal some of the contradictions. They both operate off the idea that various liberal ideas are derived scientifically in the same way gravity is derived by observing an apple fall, which is absurd on its face. If they realized that all laws are by nature a codification of metaphysically derived morality, they'd have to take a hard look at their own religious principles which often conflict with observable reality, such as racial differences or the societal harm caused by LGBT.
Several, they're a good watch, but the first one which was on Sam's podcast was very bad. It may be worth listening to hear the trainwreck, but the second one on Sam's podcast was good and all subsequent ones were good.