Let’s be perfectly clear: “Christian Nationalism” – a term being tossed around carelessly by far-right politicians and pundits – is not new and it’s not OK. It's an un-American ideology that ignores religious pluralism, a hallmark of our democracy, and encourages #hate.
@ADL was at the forefront of pushing back against this ever-evolving movement 70 years ago and will continue to do so in 2022 and beyond
It sounds like this guy is vehemently opposed to identity-based nationalism and is very proud of his organizations long history of fighting such ideas and movements. I bet his point of view is well-grounded in univerally applied standards....
In any case, nobody should take the leader of an organization founded to protect a child rapist & murderer, Leo Frank - a man so obviously guilty that not even the Deep South circa 1913 bought their attempts to frame a black guy for his crimes - seriously in the slightest.
Let’s be perfectly clear: “Christian Nationalism” – a term being tossed around carelessly by far-right politicians and pundits – is not new and it’s not OK.
Who is this little man who speaks as though he is the one who authoritatively determines what is OK?
I never said I was a Christian or Christian Nationalist.
You're like Zionists.
It sounds like you have a pretty low opinion of Zionists. Feel free to take up the mantle in opposing them. They're giving a metric fuckton of ammo to your ideological enemies.
I actually oppose both Zionism and Palestinianism because both are basically National Socialist movements, with a specialty in their own particular religion.
Zionism basically wore religious Judaism as a skinsuit in order to gain the allegiance of religious jews, but always intended to form a Socialist state, using jews as a political collective to justify it. Considering the number of jews involved in finance, law, trade, and diplomacy, it was a good plan. Jewish european intellectuals had appreciation for Socialism, Communism, Left-wing Nationalism, and even Fascism. Fascism's particularly appeal laid in the idea of a the state being the arbiter for an entire nation, and it seemed like the perfect fit; but Mussolini and Gentile emphasized that the state could construct the nation. It was National Socialism that offered the idea of a specific ethnic group being focused on. National Socialism is the optimal form of Zionism, the problem is Hitler's narrative about the formations of nations and all the explicit antisemitism. But, National Socialism outside of Germanism/Aryanism does actually fit. The Germanism is simply the needed metanarrative to apply Socialism to the nation. National Socialism was pushed outside of Germany without a Germanism meta-narrative and it did seem to work to some degree. Zionism isn't compatible with antisemitism, but the Zionists already have their own meta-narrative, including a Jewish diaspora and a "stab-in-the-back" victimhood narrative.
National Socialism without Germanism does tend to people who would otherwise be disinterested in Socialism. This is normally how many Left-wing Nationalist operations work, even when acting as Communists. Many of the Nationalist movements of the 20th century espoused some form of Socialism within their Nationalist framework. Even today, the SNP and Shin Fein are excellent examples of National Socialism without the Germanism metanarrative. Probably the most horrific examples are in Africa, where Pan Africanism was a cute diplomatic stunt, but most of the African nations, tribes, and ethnic groups were persuaded by Left-wing Nationalist rhetoric as "anti-Colonialism" and "anti-Imperialism", and used Socialism to advance their ethnic position against other groups and tribes. This lead to one of the bloodiest conflicts in all of human history, and in African history in particular: The 2nd Congolese War which killed over a million people.
Perhaps one thing that Israel did right in defeating Leftist subversion was to allow for the Socialists to form Kibbutzes. This allows Leftism in small and containable doses, where they mostly tend to fail, or dishearten their Useful Idiots. IIRC Bernie Sanders was basically ordered out of one because he was too useless. It's a kind of ideological defense-in-depth which allows pinkos to form their own private little CHAZ's which immediately collapse.
Anyways, what I'm saying is, Zionists are Nazis. Fuck 'em.
Creating a socialist state while wearing Christianity as a skin-suit. A state claiming the championing identity of Christianity as a balkanizing point in the population, while being run by Socialist atheists, and claiming Christians that oppose the Christianity of the state, are opposing Christianity itself.
Christian Nationalism is state tradcuckery and that's the last thing anyone needs.
Oh right, you thought that Christianity invented marriage.
Even Hitler thought these people were fucking pathetic and he was the arch-tradcuck.
Oh right, you think he was a 'tradcuck' because he imposed bachelor taxes, which you claim were the cause of the collapse of the Third Reich... and that of Rome. I did ask you for where you got the idea about Rome. Could you tell us uneducated ones what great source you have for your claim that it was bachelor taxes in Roman men refusing to serve in the legions? Thanks.
How precisely? Christian Nationalism is actually good, and that goes against what the Stormfags support - they hate Christianity, like their one-balled god. And Greenblatt is a joke. He creates more anti-semitism than any Nazi.
But I am looking forward to the source for your claims about Rome. TIA.
It sounds like this guy is vehemently opposed to identity-based nationalism and is very proud of his organizations long history of fighting such ideas and movements. I bet his point of view is well-grounded in univerally applied standards....
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In any case, nobody should take the leader of an organization founded to protect a child rapist & murderer, Leo Frank - a man so obviously guilty that not even the Deep South circa 1913 bought their attempts to frame a black guy for his crimes - seriously in the slightest.
Who is this little man who speaks as though he is the one who authoritatively determines what is OK?
He's one of God's Chosen and wants you to know it
I believe the term is no bad tatics only bad targets
Are you surprised, "Christian Nationalists" aren't people who want a Christian America, you want a theocracy and ethnic cleansing.
You're like Zionists.
I never said I was a Christian or Christian Nationalist.
It sounds like you have a pretty low opinion of Zionists. Feel free to take up the mantle in opposing them. They're giving a metric fuckton of ammo to your ideological enemies.
I have no problem opposing Zionism.
I actually oppose both Zionism and Palestinianism because both are basically National Socialist movements, with a specialty in their own particular religion.
Zionism basically wore religious Judaism as a skinsuit in order to gain the allegiance of religious jews, but always intended to form a Socialist state, using jews as a political collective to justify it. Considering the number of jews involved in finance, law, trade, and diplomacy, it was a good plan. Jewish european intellectuals had appreciation for Socialism, Communism, Left-wing Nationalism, and even Fascism. Fascism's particularly appeal laid in the idea of a the state being the arbiter for an entire nation, and it seemed like the perfect fit; but Mussolini and Gentile emphasized that the state could construct the nation. It was National Socialism that offered the idea of a specific ethnic group being focused on. National Socialism is the optimal form of Zionism, the problem is Hitler's narrative about the formations of nations and all the explicit antisemitism. But, National Socialism outside of Germanism/Aryanism does actually fit. The Germanism is simply the needed metanarrative to apply Socialism to the nation. National Socialism was pushed outside of Germany without a Germanism meta-narrative and it did seem to work to some degree. Zionism isn't compatible with antisemitism, but the Zionists already have their own meta-narrative, including a Jewish diaspora and a "stab-in-the-back" victimhood narrative.
National Socialism without Germanism does tend to people who would otherwise be disinterested in Socialism. This is normally how many Left-wing Nationalist operations work, even when acting as Communists. Many of the Nationalist movements of the 20th century espoused some form of Socialism within their Nationalist framework. Even today, the SNP and Shin Fein are excellent examples of National Socialism without the Germanism metanarrative. Probably the most horrific examples are in Africa, where Pan Africanism was a cute diplomatic stunt, but most of the African nations, tribes, and ethnic groups were persuaded by Left-wing Nationalist rhetoric as "anti-Colonialism" and "anti-Imperialism", and used Socialism to advance their ethnic position against other groups and tribes. This lead to one of the bloodiest conflicts in all of human history, and in African history in particular: The 2nd Congolese War which killed over a million people.
Perhaps one thing that Israel did right in defeating Leftist subversion was to allow for the Socialists to form Kibbutzes. This allows Leftism in small and containable doses, where they mostly tend to fail, or dishearten their Useful Idiots. IIRC Bernie Sanders was basically ordered out of one because he was too useless. It's a kind of ideological defense-in-depth which allows pinkos to form their own private little CHAZ's which immediately collapse.
Anyways, what I'm saying is, Zionists are Nazis. Fuck 'em.
Oh yeah, I forgot about that story about Sanders being so lazy even Communists threw him out of the commune. LMAO
I can't remember if you identified yourself as any sort of nationalist or not.
What's the Christian nationalist version of zionism?
Based
Creating a socialist state while wearing Christianity as a skin-suit. A state claiming the championing identity of Christianity as a balkanizing point in the population, while being run by Socialist atheists, and claiming Christians that oppose the Christianity of the state, are opposing Christianity itself.
Christian Nationalism is state tradcuckery and that's the last thing anyone needs.
Even Hitler thought these people were fucking pathetic and he was the arch-tradcuck.
self: Oh hey, here's a thread with some engagement. Might be interesting discussion.
... nope, just Imp1 sperging out about "tradcucks" and "stormfags".
It's so much nicer here when he's banned.
Like it was nicer on this site before you people decided one cesspit of Jew rants wasn't enough?
Oh right, you thought that Christianity invented marriage.
Oh right, you think he was a 'tradcuck' because he imposed bachelor taxes, which you claim were the cause of the collapse of the Third Reich... and that of Rome. I did ask you for where you got the idea about Rome. Could you tell us uneducated ones what great source you have for your claim that it was bachelor taxes in Roman men refusing to serve in the legions? Thanks.
You're defending the stormcucks now?
How precisely? Christian Nationalism is actually good, and that goes against what the Stormfags support - they hate Christianity, like their one-balled god. And Greenblatt is a joke. He creates more anti-semitism than any Nazi.
But I am looking forward to the source for your claims about Rome. TIA.
Wow, the fuck did I wake up to.