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Sicsempertrannus -2 points ago +1 / -3

its not dumb, both are side effects of vaccines having unintended consequences resulting in increased lethality. This doesnt stop the fact that neither scenario is in the mRNA vaccine.

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Sicsempertrannus -5 points ago +1 / -6

At the time of writing his letter, the cumulative excess deaths in Scotland in 2022 were 1,669, ‘and this number continues to increase each week’.

oh man, this is undeniable proof.......

In general, virus-specific antibodies are considered antiviral and play an important role in the control of virus infections in a number of ways. However, in some instances, the presence of specific antibodies can be beneficial to the virus. This activity is known as antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of virus infection. The ADE of virus infection is a phenomenon in which virus-specific antibodies enhance the entry of virus, and in some cases the replication of virus, into monocytes/macrophages and granulocytic cells through interaction with Fc and/or complement receptors. This phenomenon has been reported in vitro and in vivo for viruses representing numerous families and genera of public health and veterinary importance. These viruses share some common features such as preferential replication in macrophages, ability to establish persistence, and antigenic diversity. For some viruses, ADE of infection has become a great concern to disease control by vaccination. Consequently, numerous approaches have been made to the development of vaccines with minimum or no risk for ADE. Identification of viral epitopes associated with ADE or neutralization is important for this purpose. In addition, clear understanding of the cellular events after virus entry through ADE has become crucial for developing efficient intervention. However, the mechanisms of ADE still remain to be better understood.

Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. Here we show experimentally that immunization of chickens against Marek's disease virus enhances the fitness of more virulent strains, making it possible for hyperpathogenic strains to transmit. Immunity elicited by direct vaccination or by maternal vaccination prolongs host survival but does not prevent infection, viral replication or transmission, thus extending the infectious periods of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts.

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Sicsempertrannus -6 points ago +1 / -7

let me help you here, cherry picking random samples as proof is exactly what i just sent you, both sides are doing it, magically im called a vaccine shill by saying the vax hasnt caused mass death, which it hasnt. Whats frankly hilarious is the exact same doctors I said were leading the anti vax charge are all vaxxed and boosted. So is Dr. Peter McCullough a vax shill? hes vaxxed and boosted.

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Sicsempertrannus -9 points ago +1 / -10

you pulled one week of data by Walgreens from 04/06/22 to 04/12/22, a graph with no context, labels or numbers, and cases from the last three weeks of December 2021. What exactly does that provide?

here https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

COVID-19 case rates per 100,000 population from June 08 to July 05, 2022 Impact 12-34 1,348.0/952.7 1.4 times higher in unvaccinated 35-64 1,416.4/976.3 1.5 times higher in unvaccinated 65+ 1,662.8/857.8 1.9 times higher in unvaccinated

Look I can do it too!!!!!

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Sicsempertrannus -3 points ago +1 / -4

whats ad hominem about either, they are both accurate observations, and if I were to go ad hominem id make fun of the fact you think talking tough on the internet makes you correct

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Sicsempertrannus -2 points ago +1 / -3

can you start a sentence without immediate deflection? Im just curious

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Sicsempertrannus -2 points ago +2 / -4

yes, we shouldnt attempt something in the face of a massive scale pandemic..... next should we not try to populate mars because it has never been successfully done?

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Sicsempertrannus -7 points ago +1 / -8

odd, because youre the one who went ad hominem off the bat,. Refuses to use, well, any data whatsoever, and makes grandiose claims without proof. You then claimed I was a trump shill now im fauci. Tell you what, ill let you mire in your own stupidity, have fun!

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Sicsempertrannus -6 points ago +1 / -7

I HAVE THE DATA. I JUST CANT SHOW YOU BECAUSE IM BETTER THAN YOU. imagine thinking im the troll...

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Sicsempertrannus -10 points ago +2 / -12

there is no negative efficacy, this is massive stupidity from someone who cant even pull data to support his claims let alone use cognitive thought. ADE would have made coronavirus worse for everyone, not weaker, if anyone wants to pretend that covid is deadlier today than two years ago then I'm all ears.

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Sicsempertrannus -3 points ago +1 / -4

oh my bad, pulling numbers out of your ass and claiming it is fact seems to be all youre capable of

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Sicsempertrannus -21 points ago +1 / -22

According to numbers, yes, people with 3 or more vaccines are in fact getting worst outcomes than those with less.

literally no study says that, its adorable when dumbasses play doctor, show me the numbers retard

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Sicsempertrannus -15 points ago +3 / -18

so covid is getting worse and the symptoms have become more deadly because of the vaccine? Or do you have no clue what ADE is?

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Sicsempertrannus -4 points ago +1 / -5

Dude, you're the one that came into our house (since you're a new account) and started bawling because we think the vaccine is shit, which it is. Don't go saying we're crying foul here.

youre making some massive assumptions little worm

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Sicsempertrannus -3 points ago +1 / -4

if you didnt catch on I was asking guided questions to see if you did actually read any of the studies, the only real response should have been that myocarditis was a massive side effect in coronavirus and the mRNA vaccine could be causing it or the person caught covid and had sudden cardiac arrest due to myocarditis from either the virus or vaccine. thats the reality of the data currently.

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Sicsempertrannus -14 points ago +3 / -17

theres also the case of Mareks chickens. However its clear the vax doesnt cause ADE as the symptoms would have worsened in the vaccinated and covid would have become deadlier, not less.

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Sicsempertrannus -3 points ago +1 / -4

and myocarditis is capable of self repair in most cases, so why is sudden cardiac arrest occuring?

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Sicsempertrannus -2 points ago +1 / -3

It's the first mRNA vaccine you dingus. Everyone gets a gold star when they're competing alone, no matter how bad they did. But even if this was your pee wee 100m dash, I think the vaccine would just get disqualified for not even making it to the finish line.

dumb dumb, its still a higher efficacy than traditional coronavirus vaccines, again I said prove the statement wrong.

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