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UK leadership debate goes off the air as a presenter suddenly collapses. SAFE AND EFFECTIVE. (twitter.com)
posted 3 years ago by NotAGlowy 3 years ago by NotAGlowy +84 / -0
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– Sicsempertrannus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

you pulled one week of data by Walgreens from 04/06/22 to 04/12/22, a graph with no context, labels or numbers, and cases from the last three weeks of December 2021. What exactly does that provide?

here https://doh.wa.gov/sites/default/files/2022-02/421-010-CasesInNotFullyVaccinated.pdf

COVID-19 case rates per 100,000 population from June 08 to July 05, 2022 Impact 12-34 1,348.0/952.7 1.4 times higher in unvaccinated 35-64 1,416.4/976.3 1.5 times higher in unvaccinated 65+ 1,662.8/857.8 1.9 times higher in unvaccinated

Look I can do it too!!!!!

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– ZeroPercentCamoIndex 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

It doesn't matter what you can do when you claimed 'literally no study claims that' which was easily shot down. They speak for themselves. Are you suggesting that the prevalence of covid among the vaccinated has flipped around since December lol? The context of the middle graph, if needed, will be provided when a proper human being requests it rather than some weird consensus cracking agitator (saw your other thread). Generally speaking the context isn't required any more on here since we've all seen it and know that the only data to support your pro-vaxx deflection is cherrypicked trash from mostly US agencies who scrub their data to serve the pharma narrative they're locked into.

But since you're replying here's a few others to worry about the context of:

Hospitalisations up on last year in highly vaxxed NY despite milder Omicron

whoops, boosters doing poorly again

German 2020-21 Emergency Room presentation chart showing no respiratory cause spike in 2020 yet a neuro- and cardio- spike in 2021

Elevated all cause mortality in Massachusetts consisting of thousands of pulmonary, cardio, clotting etc death codes, which were not present in 2020

Remember they're not really for you, think of yourself more as a signboard I'm sticking info onto, for the sake of the genuinely curious.

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– Sicsempertrannus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

let me help you here, cherry picking random samples as proof is exactly what i just sent you, both sides are doing it, magically im called a vaccine shill by saying the vax hasnt caused mass death, which it hasnt. Whats frankly hilarious is the exact same doctors I said were leading the anti vax charge are all vaxxed and boosted. So is Dr. Peter McCullough a vax shill? hes vaxxed and boosted.

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– ZeroPercentCamoIndex 6 points 3 years ago +6 / -0

magically im called a vaccine shill by saying...

You're called a vaccine shill by me, at least, because of your suspicious behaviour and your shit arguments. I can't even be bothered to go into how you conflated ADE with Marek's disease to dismiss the likelihood of the former when they're completely unrelated (again, for anyone actually curious, not you). Shove your 'both sides' up your ass.

the vax hasnt caused mass death, which it hasnt

The previous link from Coquin De Chien says it has, record high excess death in Scotland says it has, UK ONS data for all cause mortality says it has, what life insurers say about increased claims suggests it has.

Whats frankly hilarious is the exact same doctors I said were leading the anti vax charge are all vaxxed and boosted. So is Dr. Peter McCullough a vax shill? hes vaxxed and boosted.

Don't care, icons, celebs and popular figures are what marketers use for persuasion (another telltale for you). 'That one guy you like, the one I'm assuming you like only because you agree with him? He... did something you DON'T agree with, how about them apples??' lol. McCullough is not on here bizarrely calling vaxx questioners 'leftists', 'princesses' or 'anti-Trump', that's why he's not a vaxx shill and you are.

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– Sicsempertrannus 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

At the time of writing his letter, the cumulative excess deaths in Scotland in 2022 were 1,669, ‘and this number continues to increase each week’.

oh man, this is undeniable proof.......

In general, virus-specific antibodies are considered antiviral and play an important role in the control of virus infections in a number of ways. However, in some instances, the presence of specific antibodies can be beneficial to the virus. This activity is known as antibody-dependent enhancement (ADE) of virus infection. The ADE of virus infection is a phenomenon in which virus-specific antibodies enhance the entry of virus, and in some cases the replication of virus, into monocytes/macrophages and granulocytic cells through interaction with Fc and/or complement receptors. This phenomenon has been reported in vitro and in vivo for viruses representing numerous families and genera of public health and veterinary importance. These viruses share some common features such as preferential replication in macrophages, ability to establish persistence, and antigenic diversity. For some viruses, ADE of infection has become a great concern to disease control by vaccination. Consequently, numerous approaches have been made to the development of vaccines with minimum or no risk for ADE. Identification of viral epitopes associated with ADE or neutralization is important for this purpose. In addition, clear understanding of the cellular events after virus entry through ADE has become crucial for developing efficient intervention. However, the mechanisms of ADE still remain to be better understood.

Could some vaccines drive the evolution of more virulent pathogens? Conventional wisdom is that natural selection will remove highly lethal pathogens if host death greatly reduces transmission. Vaccines that keep hosts alive but still allow transmission could thus allow very virulent strains to circulate in a population. Here we show experimentally that immunization of chickens against Marek's disease virus enhances the fitness of more virulent strains, making it possible for hyperpathogenic strains to transmit. Immunity elicited by direct vaccination or by maternal vaccination prolongs host survival but does not prevent infection, viral replication or transmission, thus extending the infectious periods of strains otherwise too lethal to persist. Our data show that anti-disease vaccines that do not prevent transmission can create conditions that promote the emergence of pathogen strains that cause more severe disease in unvaccinated hosts.

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