However, it's not going to be anyone but Trump, and literally everyone knows it. Believe it or not, most normies don't even know who DeSantis is.
Trump will do fine, hopefully he's smart enough to actually push the establishment's shit in, rather than rely on help from establishment support the entire time. He had no real infrastructure behind him in 2016, and he's been building up the MAGA movement (mostly thanks to Bannon) into something that's tearing at the heart of the GOP, and will give him an actual fucking structure to work with in 2024.
Nobody else has that, and he hasn't passed it on. DeSantis, just to be clear, is still securing Florida for us, and it could easily go back. The reason Trump didn't lose Florida is because DeSantis cleared out Boward County's Board of Elections. That's why the media took so long to call Florida, they assumed Boward County would discover 400,000 votes under a broken water pipe somewhere.
There's no need to have this fight. Let Trump go in, and let the infrastructure he's built actually support him. After that, we can work with a DeSantis or Paul Presidency. Honestly, Paul would be better first since he's older, and DeSantis can secure more of the South.
You could be looking at anywhere between 8 to 20 years of Republican dominance, rather than risking all the momentum that Trump has by tossing it on someone else.
This is something I vehemently disagree with you on.
Trump is not a king. I am so sick of people like you insisting that he must be the nominee in 2024 and that Ron DeSantis can wait for 2028.
DeSantis must strike when the iron is hot. DeSantis's whole brand is fighting against COVID, it would be foolish for him to wait when his key strength is forgotten.
DeSantis has already helped mold Florida from a swing state into a growing Republican state. If DeSantis is the nominee, there will be another competent Republican gubernatorial candidate to keep Florida red. Broward shenanigans will not be allowed to happen again.
Trump has already shown us all that he is terrible at staffing, terrible at realizing he has made key mistakes and thus he never learns from them. Trump had his chance and he absolutely blew it.
He doesn't deserve to be the nominee in 2024.
DeSantis will definitely run against him in 2024 and he has about 1.5 years to make his case to the Republican base on why he is a better choice than Trump.
You don't understand electoral dynamics if you can actually spout this nonsense with a straight face: "8 to 20 years of Republican dominance".
There has only been one time since after WW2 where the same party won the White House three times in a row and it was Reagan 80, 84 and Bush 88.
If Trump is the nominee in 2024, he likely loses to the Dem nominee and dooms us or if we are lucky he narrowly wins and ensures that we will lose 2028. The whole idea of Trump 2024 and 8 years of Ron DeSantis after will never happen.
You don't understand electoral dynamics if you can actually spout this nonsense with a straight face: "8 to 20 years of Republican dominance".
Yeah, that was an eye roll worthy claim, LOL. It reminds me of Tim Pool predicting that Trump would win every state.
This is another thing to criticize Trump for, detaching much of the right from reality. The 2020 fraud stuff has morphed into this weird assumption that Trump is this overwhelmingly beloved figure that would have won 90% of the vote or something were it not for fraud. In reality, vast swathes of the country hate him and Republicans.
I didn't say he was a king. I said he is actually building the logistical structure to get to the White House that Ron DeSantis absolutely does not have.
If DeSantis is the nominee, there will be another competent Republican gubernatorial candidate to keep Florida red.
I don't think that's a guarantee. DeSantis is competent but he's only been in the job 3 years. Look at Bernie Sanders by contrast. Bernie was a huge threat to the Democratic machine, because he had been Vermont's kingmaker for well over a decade. The man had Vermont on fucking lockdown and he wasn't even the fucking governor. He had a major political infrastructure to rely on, and the Dems had to repeatedly screw him out of winning the nomination twice because they couldn't actually threaten, coerce, or undermine his position. He built a parallel infrastructure.
I'm telling you there's no way DeSantis's infrastructure is as good as Bernie Sanders' right now. If you push DeSantis too hard, to quickly, there's a possibility you lose Florida and POTUS.
Let DeSantis move Florida into a locked down Red state. Let him build a massive support system to fall back on to remain independent of political favors from DC. We need more governors like DeSantis, we don't really need DeSantis in the white house.
You don't understand electoral dynamics if you can actually spout this nonsense with a straight face: "8 to 20 years of Republican dominance".
There has only been one time since after WW2 where the same party won the White House three times in a row and it was Reagan 80, 84 and Bush 88.
Yeah, I do because it's that fucking serious. Who did Reagan run against? Carter and Mondale, some of the most aggressively out of touch Progressives that the party put up post-Kennedy. There's always a major right-wing blowback when the establishment pushes hard Left. The 70's Days of Rage and Inflation gave rise to Reagan. The Labour Party's Winter of Discontent and horrible coal strikes lead to Thatcher. In both cases, the Labour Party created Tony Blair to appear like a conservative Labour, and democrats pushed Clinton to harp on fiscal responsibility and a tough on crime agenda. They wore a Conservative skinsuit to fix their shit and had to purge out the Socialists.
Thing is, I don't think there's anything but Socialists left. The Democratic Party might actually fucking break apart. The Republican Party actually should have, but MAGA has begun to conquer it.
You aren't looking at the normal tit-for-tat from the 90's or 00's. You're looking at a major realignment of politics in the US. Ohio isn't a swing state. Nor is Florida. Texas probably still leans red, but California might lose several electoral votes due to population loss. Wisconsin's a swing state. Georgia and Virginia might both be too. And yeah, you are going to be looking at an absolute right-wing blow-out election in 2024, 2028, or 2032; as we did with Nixon, as we did with Reagan. The Left has pushed too hard.
If Trump is the nominee in 2024, he likely loses to the Dem nominee and dooms us or if we are lucky he narrowly wins and ensures that we will lose 2028.
I don't fucking see it. In fact, what I would see (if somehow Trump was unpopular in 2028) would be DeSantis and Paul going at him with knives out to take power from him. Most people haven't had this kind of a direct comparison between Trump years vs Biden years, and it's going to have a major effect on 2024.
Florida will be fine even without Ronald DeSantis.
Trump is toxic to independent voters and you cannot see it.
If Trump is the nominee, it means we will have an election that is close enough where election fraud can tip the scales.
The man lost in 2020 while he was an incumbent because election fraud tipped the scales.
He couldn't secure his win as an incumbent but he can as a challenger? Not a chance.
You are living in a pro-Trump bubble if you think the Democratic party is on the verge of collapse. Trump galvanizes Democratic turnout like no other.
Ron DeSantis 2024 is a much safer bet than running the man who is absolutely despised by half the country. I know people who foam at the mouth when they hear the name Trump. It is impossible to induce that same reaction if you say DeSantis.
Trump is a very weak candidate and it is beyond foolish to run him again when he is 78.
Florida will not be fine without Ron DeSantis so early, and you're crazy if you think the Dems don't want Florida back in play.
Trump isn't toxic to independent voters. Moreover, elections are mostly determined by the activation of your followers, not by the vast disinterested majority.
He couldn't secure his win as an incumbent but he can as a challenger? Not a chance.
We've already seen major movement on this front from all over the US. Most of the conditions that benefited the Dems in 2020 are already gone, laws have already been passed to disrupt previous efforts, and their strategies are already identified. I'm afraid they are having to adjust their strategy for vote rigging.
You are living in a pro-Trump bubble if you think the Democratic party is on the verge of collapse.
You should take a closer look at the party right now.
Trump galvanizes Democratic turnout like no other. Ron DeSantis 2024 is a much safer bet than running the man who is absolutely despised by half the country. I know people who foam at the mouth when they hear the name Trump. It is impossible to induce that same reaction if you say DeSantis.
He does, but the idea that DeSantis won't is asinine. People already do have DeSantis derangement syndrome, and have already started calling him "Death Sentence" for killing people with Covid, and wanting to murder gays. The same game the press played on Trump is already being played on DeSantis. His name is being dragged through the mud already. Everything done to Trump will be replicated on him, and it will be moral for people to call for his death on Twitter.
Remember, these are people that attacked Ron Paul for wanting to kill black people... who actually passed a police accountability law after the death of Sandra Bland (a conspiracy which the Black Nationalists won't stop screaming about).
Whoever runs in 2024 gets the Trump treatment: they are racist, nazi, pedophiles who are guilty of committing simultaneous genocides against: transpeople, blacks, women, mexicans, and muslims. That's 100% the case unless Jeb Bush secures the nomination.
Desantis only did what he did because he had help from Trump. Otherwise desantis wouldve been just another youngking or romney.
Amd no he wont lose if theres no fraud. If Trump, the most popular president in history, got cheated out of a landslide via millions of fake ballots and mules what chance would desantis stand? What prevents dems from just repeating 2020 fraud on steroids against neoconsantis?
It's hilarious how he's saying THIS TIME he will drain the swamp, for real though.
Part of me hears that and is like "YES!" and another part of me is "WTF man?" But I don't see who else would do it either.
I think I've got a better analogy. We're not fighting a Cathedral, but a Star Fortress.
Trump becoming president is like seizing one entire point on the star. However, without continued support, that point can be cut off, the other points can fire on the reinforcements, and even on the point occupied by attacking forces.
Truth is, Trump got contained because the swept to power at the top with no real logistical support. Remember that when Trump announced in 2016, basically nobody was there for his announcement. He didn't have a structure, so a lot of people in that structure were naive, inexperienced, and untested.
He got persuaded to take people with more experience, and all of them were basically containment and subverters. I don't think he really believed how far they would go to fucking disrupt him. The fact that his own commanders lied to his face about troop movements in Syria is fucking galling. Barr looked like he was good. Mattis looked like he was good. Pence looked like he was good. Republicans were prepared to support those people, and they all fucking tried to cut his throat. The most reliable members of his cabinet turned out to be Betsy DeVos and Ben Carson?!!
Truth is, I think his inexperience with politics got the better of him. Despite what he managed to do: start up wall building, enact mass deportations, deregulate the economy, end the Title IX Tribunals. In reality, he didn't even have election interference legal challenges ready.
When we look at how many people were undermining him, and you consider the QAnon disinfo campaign, and you consider that the distraction on Dominion that pulled attorneys away from his the actual fucking election problems with invalid vote counts, when you consider the Chamber Of Commerce sided with Antifa. There's no way he was ready for what they did to him.
He got fucking played. The question is, what is Trump's history when people absolutely fuck him over. How does he respond?
I'm gonna bet money he's not the type of person to take it on the chin with a smile. I feel like Trump is exactly the kind of person who's going to be viscous to his enemies.
If you remember the Trump Golf Course that was built in Scotland, there was a guy who refused to sell his land, and it turned into a big scandal. I remember bringing it up to people in 2016 as a comparison of what he would be like as President (I wasn't in favor of him at the time). He did his normal Trump thing of basically belittling him in the press and in public. But the government of Scotland also changed laws to completely fuck the guy over. The guy was so zealous he was going to try and confront bulldozers. It turned into a complete shit show, but it showed Trump was more than prepared to play fucking hard ball if you pissed him off.
Remember when why that Iranian general was killed? The Iranians had been funding the war in Yemen. Their political puppet Hezbollah had been making major attacks on US aligned Syrian forces. Iranian proxies had attacked a US consulate, and scrawled the generals name on the building. The Iraqi government in Baghdad had basically succumbed to the Iranians due to diplomatic and strategic failures by Bush and Obama, it was acting as an Iranian puppet state (which would eventually lead to major protests and a near collapse of the government). The general had gone to Iraq to bribe the proxies with more money to commit more violence against the Americans. They had been increasing their attacks on shipping including seizing ships. All while both the Ayatollah, and a series of sycophants had been talking absolutely mad shit on Twitter.
So he fucking smoked the general in Iraq, and posted an American flag on Twitter. Fucking Christ.
Remember when the Taliban backed out of a peace accord? Trump's response was to drop a fucking 25,000 lbs bomb on one of their facilities.
The fact that Trump's biggest supporters on Jan. 6 were Steve Bannon and Alex Jones, tells me that I think he's starting to realize just how many people were actually fucking over him. I honestly feel like this is a guy who might not hold big grudges, but you get his attention enough to piss him off, he might just decide to fucking smash you.
That "Schedule F" thing was absolutely real, and he enacted it. All we've basically seen is that he plans to expand it. I don't doubt he's prepared to start chopping away at the establishment after they fucked him over this bad.
Guys like Trump, the guys who make it their business to look powerful, they take being made a fool of very personally.
I don't know why he's so friendly with Lindsay Graham then. Not to mention he keeps sitting down with MSM journalists who have trashed him in the past.
I don't think you're wrong. But you still need to consider that he has no political experience. I think he's learning, and he's also the type to seek revenge.
Consider that he fired Steve Bannon, but Bannon is still one of the biggest driving forces for Trump's logistics. That seems like an indication that he's learned something.
He is a paper tiger who was even afraid to fire Fauci.
You make him sound like a badass when in reality he is a man completely out of his depth.
He got played bigly and he didn't even learn anything from his mistakes.
He refuses to even acknowledge he made mistakes in the first place and he surrounds himself with the same incompetent staff that was responsible for failing at preventing the election fraud.
Nominating him again in 2024 is a terrible mistake that the right needs to be smart enough to avoid.
I don't agree with your assessment of him not learning from his mistakes as he's keeping rightists much closer (including Bannon), has claimed to use pardon powers to free Jan 6-ers (aggressive pardoning is a good executive weapon against federal courts), his "Schedule F" federal order will give him the power to remove thousands of federal employees, and I'm very confident he's the type of person to want to get revenge on those who cross him.
At this point I see Trump as negative momentum, not a positive thing at all. The left would drop literal nukes on America if he gets re-elected. This is not the direction the American people need, the country is already broken.
Trump 2024 ensures that the right hits a culminating point.
If he wins 2024 he ensures that we lose the next general election in 2028.
If he loses 2024, we are doomed with another 4 years of Dem tyranny.
Trump is a terrible choice for 2024 and I cannot believe so many intelligent people on the right are oblivious to this fact.
Trump is absolutely hated by so many people, why the fuck should we run him again when we have more competent and less hated choices like DeSantis?
Trump is a terrible choice for 2024 and I cannot believe so many intelligent people on the right are oblivious to this fact.
Jut like how there's TDS, there's also TFS (Trump Fanboy Syndrome). Also, I've noticed this trend of those on the right where they'll reflexively take the opposite position to that of the left, even when its a bad take.
Mih hated. Trumps loved by more americans. Stop buying the cnn/msnpc propaganda, you may as well believe the russia and rittenhouse hoax if tou believe that and that 2020 wqs legit.
Again if they stole a landslide from Trump, why do you think they wont do the same with smaller fry like neoconsantis?
That's ridiculous, and besides, they aren't going to drop nukes. They are going to crash the economy and abandon it to fucking China and Europe.
If Trump wins, he'll likely start slashing federal staff, so they'll probably try to do something stupid like shut down the government with strikes and even just fucking leave to take the money and embezzlements they stole. They'll make Qusay Hussein's robbery of the national bank look like a pawn shop.
Nuke san fran and los angelos for all I care. I want someone who cares about america over open border rino/neocon/progressive scum (romney/desantis/biden/pence/kamala/etc). Let the left burn down their own shitholes, im done with political correctness
Larry Elder would be fucking great.
However, it's not going to be anyone but Trump, and literally everyone knows it. Believe it or not, most normies don't even know who DeSantis is.
Trump will do fine, hopefully he's smart enough to actually push the establishment's shit in, rather than rely on help from establishment support the entire time. He had no real infrastructure behind him in 2016, and he's been building up the MAGA movement (mostly thanks to Bannon) into something that's tearing at the heart of the GOP, and will give him an actual fucking structure to work with in 2024.
Nobody else has that, and he hasn't passed it on. DeSantis, just to be clear, is still securing Florida for us, and it could easily go back. The reason Trump didn't lose Florida is because DeSantis cleared out Boward County's Board of Elections. That's why the media took so long to call Florida, they assumed Boward County would discover 400,000 votes under a broken water pipe somewhere.
There's no need to have this fight. Let Trump go in, and let the infrastructure he's built actually support him. After that, we can work with a DeSantis or Paul Presidency. Honestly, Paul would be better first since he's older, and DeSantis can secure more of the South.
You could be looking at anywhere between 8 to 20 years of Republican dominance, rather than risking all the momentum that Trump has by tossing it on someone else.
No to Trump 2024.
This is something I vehemently disagree with you on.
Trump is not a king. I am so sick of people like you insisting that he must be the nominee in 2024 and that Ron DeSantis can wait for 2028.
DeSantis must strike when the iron is hot. DeSantis's whole brand is fighting against COVID, it would be foolish for him to wait when his key strength is forgotten.
DeSantis has already helped mold Florida from a swing state into a growing Republican state. If DeSantis is the nominee, there will be another competent Republican gubernatorial candidate to keep Florida red. Broward shenanigans will not be allowed to happen again.
Trump has already shown us all that he is terrible at staffing, terrible at realizing he has made key mistakes and thus he never learns from them. Trump had his chance and he absolutely blew it.
He doesn't deserve to be the nominee in 2024.
DeSantis will definitely run against him in 2024 and he has about 1.5 years to make his case to the Republican base on why he is a better choice than Trump.
You don't understand electoral dynamics if you can actually spout this nonsense with a straight face: "8 to 20 years of Republican dominance".
There has only been one time since after WW2 where the same party won the White House three times in a row and it was Reagan 80, 84 and Bush 88.
If Trump is the nominee in 2024, he likely loses to the Dem nominee and dooms us or if we are lucky he narrowly wins and ensures that we will lose 2028. The whole idea of Trump 2024 and 8 years of Ron DeSantis after will never happen.
Yeah, that was an eye roll worthy claim, LOL. It reminds me of Tim Pool predicting that Trump would win every state.
This is another thing to criticize Trump for, detaching much of the right from reality. The 2020 fraud stuff has morphed into this weird assumption that Trump is this overwhelmingly beloved figure that would have won 90% of the vote or something were it not for fraud. In reality, vast swathes of the country hate him and Republicans.
I didn't say he was a king. I said he is actually building the logistical structure to get to the White House that Ron DeSantis absolutely does not have.
I don't think that's a guarantee. DeSantis is competent but he's only been in the job 3 years. Look at Bernie Sanders by contrast. Bernie was a huge threat to the Democratic machine, because he had been Vermont's kingmaker for well over a decade. The man had Vermont on fucking lockdown and he wasn't even the fucking governor. He had a major political infrastructure to rely on, and the Dems had to repeatedly screw him out of winning the nomination twice because they couldn't actually threaten, coerce, or undermine his position. He built a parallel infrastructure.
I'm telling you there's no way DeSantis's infrastructure is as good as Bernie Sanders' right now. If you push DeSantis too hard, to quickly, there's a possibility you lose Florida and POTUS.
Let DeSantis move Florida into a locked down Red state. Let him build a massive support system to fall back on to remain independent of political favors from DC. We need more governors like DeSantis, we don't really need DeSantis in the white house.
Yeah, I do because it's that fucking serious. Who did Reagan run against? Carter and Mondale, some of the most aggressively out of touch Progressives that the party put up post-Kennedy. There's always a major right-wing blowback when the establishment pushes hard Left. The 70's Days of Rage and Inflation gave rise to Reagan. The Labour Party's Winter of Discontent and horrible coal strikes lead to Thatcher. In both cases, the Labour Party created Tony Blair to appear like a conservative Labour, and democrats pushed Clinton to harp on fiscal responsibility and a tough on crime agenda. They wore a Conservative skinsuit to fix their shit and had to purge out the Socialists.
Thing is, I don't think there's anything but Socialists left. The Democratic Party might actually fucking break apart. The Republican Party actually should have, but MAGA has begun to conquer it.
You aren't looking at the normal tit-for-tat from the 90's or 00's. You're looking at a major realignment of politics in the US. Ohio isn't a swing state. Nor is Florida. Texas probably still leans red, but California might lose several electoral votes due to population loss. Wisconsin's a swing state. Georgia and Virginia might both be too. And yeah, you are going to be looking at an absolute right-wing blow-out election in 2024, 2028, or 2032; as we did with Nixon, as we did with Reagan. The Left has pushed too hard.
I don't fucking see it. In fact, what I would see (if somehow Trump was unpopular in 2028) would be DeSantis and Paul going at him with knives out to take power from him. Most people haven't had this kind of a direct comparison between Trump years vs Biden years, and it's going to have a major effect on 2024.
Florida will be fine even without Ronald DeSantis.
Trump is toxic to independent voters and you cannot see it.
If Trump is the nominee, it means we will have an election that is close enough where election fraud can tip the scales.
The man lost in 2020 while he was an incumbent because election fraud tipped the scales.
He couldn't secure his win as an incumbent but he can as a challenger? Not a chance.
You are living in a pro-Trump bubble if you think the Democratic party is on the verge of collapse. Trump galvanizes Democratic turnout like no other.
Ron DeSantis 2024 is a much safer bet than running the man who is absolutely despised by half the country. I know people who foam at the mouth when they hear the name Trump. It is impossible to induce that same reaction if you say DeSantis.
Trump is a very weak candidate and it is beyond foolish to run him again when he is 78.
No more boomer candidates.
Florida will not be fine without Ron DeSantis so early, and you're crazy if you think the Dems don't want Florida back in play.
Trump isn't toxic to independent voters. Moreover, elections are mostly determined by the activation of your followers, not by the vast disinterested majority.
We've already seen major movement on this front from all over the US. Most of the conditions that benefited the Dems in 2020 are already gone, laws have already been passed to disrupt previous efforts, and their strategies are already identified. I'm afraid they are having to adjust their strategy for vote rigging.
You should take a closer look at the party right now.
He does, but the idea that DeSantis won't is asinine. People already do have DeSantis derangement syndrome, and have already started calling him "Death Sentence" for killing people with Covid, and wanting to murder gays. The same game the press played on Trump is already being played on DeSantis. His name is being dragged through the mud already. Everything done to Trump will be replicated on him, and it will be moral for people to call for his death on Twitter.
Remember, these are people that attacked Ron Paul for wanting to kill black people... who actually passed a police accountability law after the death of Sandra Bland (a conspiracy which the Black Nationalists won't stop screaming about).
Whoever runs in 2024 gets the Trump treatment: they are racist, nazi, pedophiles who are guilty of committing simultaneous genocides against: transpeople, blacks, women, mexicans, and muslims. That's 100% the case unless Jeb Bush secures the nomination.
Desantis only did what he did because he had help from Trump. Otherwise desantis wouldve been just another youngking or romney.
Amd no he wont lose if theres no fraud. If Trump, the most popular president in history, got cheated out of a landslide via millions of fake ballots and mules what chance would desantis stand? What prevents dems from just repeating 2020 fraud on steroids against neoconsantis?
It's hilarious how he's saying THIS TIME he will drain the swamp, for real though. Part of me hears that and is like "YES!" and another part of me is "WTF man?" But I don't see who else would do it either.
Trump failed to drain anything the first time.
He was too afraid of Dem backlash to even fire Fauci. He is a paper tiger who won't do shit.
We need new leadership.
I think I've got a better analogy. We're not fighting a Cathedral, but a Star Fortress.
Trump becoming president is like seizing one entire point on the star. However, without continued support, that point can be cut off, the other points can fire on the reinforcements, and even on the point occupied by attacking forces.
Truth is, Trump got contained because the swept to power at the top with no real logistical support. Remember that when Trump announced in 2016, basically nobody was there for his announcement. He didn't have a structure, so a lot of people in that structure were naive, inexperienced, and untested.
He got persuaded to take people with more experience, and all of them were basically containment and subverters. I don't think he really believed how far they would go to fucking disrupt him. The fact that his own commanders lied to his face about troop movements in Syria is fucking galling. Barr looked like he was good. Mattis looked like he was good. Pence looked like he was good. Republicans were prepared to support those people, and they all fucking tried to cut his throat. The most reliable members of his cabinet turned out to be Betsy DeVos and Ben Carson?!!
Truth is, I think his inexperience with politics got the better of him. Despite what he managed to do: start up wall building, enact mass deportations, deregulate the economy, end the Title IX Tribunals. In reality, he didn't even have election interference legal challenges ready.
When we look at how many people were undermining him, and you consider the QAnon disinfo campaign, and you consider that the distraction on Dominion that pulled attorneys away from his the actual fucking election problems with invalid vote counts, when you consider the Chamber Of Commerce sided with Antifa. There's no way he was ready for what they did to him.
He got fucking played. The question is, what is Trump's history when people absolutely fuck him over. How does he respond?
I'm gonna bet money he's not the type of person to take it on the chin with a smile. I feel like Trump is exactly the kind of person who's going to be viscous to his enemies.
If you remember the Trump Golf Course that was built in Scotland, there was a guy who refused to sell his land, and it turned into a big scandal. I remember bringing it up to people in 2016 as a comparison of what he would be like as President (I wasn't in favor of him at the time). He did his normal Trump thing of basically belittling him in the press and in public. But the government of Scotland also changed laws to completely fuck the guy over. The guy was so zealous he was going to try and confront bulldozers. It turned into a complete shit show, but it showed Trump was more than prepared to play fucking hard ball if you pissed him off.
Remember when why that Iranian general was killed? The Iranians had been funding the war in Yemen. Their political puppet Hezbollah had been making major attacks on US aligned Syrian forces. Iranian proxies had attacked a US consulate, and scrawled the generals name on the building. The Iraqi government in Baghdad had basically succumbed to the Iranians due to diplomatic and strategic failures by Bush and Obama, it was acting as an Iranian puppet state (which would eventually lead to major protests and a near collapse of the government). The general had gone to Iraq to bribe the proxies with more money to commit more violence against the Americans. They had been increasing their attacks on shipping including seizing ships. All while both the Ayatollah, and a series of sycophants had been talking absolutely mad shit on Twitter.
So he fucking smoked the general in Iraq, and posted an American flag on Twitter. Fucking Christ.
Remember when the Taliban backed out of a peace accord? Trump's response was to drop a fucking 25,000 lbs bomb on one of their facilities.
The fact that Trump's biggest supporters on Jan. 6 were Steve Bannon and Alex Jones, tells me that I think he's starting to realize just how many people were actually fucking over him. I honestly feel like this is a guy who might not hold big grudges, but you get his attention enough to piss him off, he might just decide to fucking smash you.
That "Schedule F" thing was absolutely real, and he enacted it. All we've basically seen is that he plans to expand it. I don't doubt he's prepared to start chopping away at the establishment after they fucked him over this bad.
Guys like Trump, the guys who make it their business to look powerful, they take being made a fool of very personally.
I don't know why he's so friendly with Lindsay Graham then. Not to mention he keeps sitting down with MSM journalists who have trashed him in the past.
I don't think you're wrong. But you still need to consider that he has no political experience. I think he's learning, and he's also the type to seek revenge.
Consider that he fired Steve Bannon, but Bannon is still one of the biggest driving forces for Trump's logistics. That seems like an indication that he's learned something.
He is a paper tiger who was even afraid to fire Fauci.
You make him sound like a badass when in reality he is a man completely out of his depth.
He got played bigly and he didn't even learn anything from his mistakes.
He refuses to even acknowledge he made mistakes in the first place and he surrounds himself with the same incompetent staff that was responsible for failing at preventing the election fraud.
Nominating him again in 2024 is a terrible mistake that the right needs to be smart enough to avoid.
I don't agree with your assessment of him not learning from his mistakes as he's keeping rightists much closer (including Bannon), has claimed to use pardon powers to free Jan 6-ers (aggressive pardoning is a good executive weapon against federal courts), his "Schedule F" federal order will give him the power to remove thousands of federal employees, and I'm very confident he's the type of person to want to get revenge on those who cross him.
Yes, neocons and rinos are totally better, orange man bad, am i right fellow redditors!
Not sure why you replied to me instead of the dozen other comments telling people to vote for someone else...
I replied to your raptor alt as well
At this point I see Trump as negative momentum, not a positive thing at all. The left would drop literal nukes on America if he gets re-elected. This is not the direction the American people need, the country is already broken.
Trump 2024 ensures that the right hits a culminating point. If he wins 2024 he ensures that we lose the next general election in 2028. If he loses 2024, we are doomed with another 4 years of Dem tyranny.
Trump is a terrible choice for 2024 and I cannot believe so many intelligent people on the right are oblivious to this fact.
Trump is absolutely hated by so many people, why the fuck should we run him again when we have more competent and less hated choices like DeSantis?
Jut like how there's TDS, there's also TFS (Trump Fanboy Syndrome). Also, I've noticed this trend of those on the right where they'll reflexively take the opposite position to that of the left, even when its a bad take.
The moron you replied to is TDS infected, its like he crawled out of r/politics
Mih hated. Trumps loved by more americans. Stop buying the cnn/msnpc propaganda, you may as well believe the russia and rittenhouse hoax if tou believe that and that 2020 wqs legit.
Again if they stole a landslide from Trump, why do you think they wont do the same with smaller fry like neoconsantis?
Accelerate.
That's ridiculous, and besides, they aren't going to drop nukes. They are going to crash the economy and abandon it to fucking China and Europe.
If Trump wins, he'll likely start slashing federal staff, so they'll probably try to do something stupid like shut down the government with strikes and even just fucking leave to take the money and embezzlements they stole. They'll make Qusay Hussein's robbery of the national bank look like a pawn shop.
Nuke san fran and los angelos for all I care. I want someone who cares about america over open border rino/neocon/progressive scum (romney/desantis/biden/pence/kamala/etc). Let the left burn down their own shitholes, im done with political correctness