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Definitely-not-a-Nazi Zelensky blacklists multiple people from Ukraine for “promoting Russian propaganda” including Tulsi, Greenwald & Rand Paul (unherd.com)
posted 4 years ago by YesMovement 4 years ago by YesMovement +60 / -0
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– YesMovement [S] 23 points 4 years ago +23 / -0

Glenn Greenwald's reply: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1551571483239108608

Before Russia's invasion and since, Zelensky has abolished basic liberties: shuttered opposition media, outlawed parties, imprisoned dissidents.

As Ukraine demands money and arms from the West, they now want to export this repression to our countries with McCarthyite blacklists:

You can see the full Ukrainian blacklist, obtained by @unherd. Beyond the individuals listed above, officially maligned are @JeffDSachs, @RandPaul, former Brazil President @LulaOficial, Col. Douglas MacGregor, Caleb Maupin, Marine LePen and many others:

It takes extreme audacity for Zelansky and his henchmen to go around the world demanding other nations send massive amounts of weapons and money to him, then try to suppress dissent in our countries by smearing journalists and citizens who question. My full statement to @unherd: https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1551572918282354689

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– AntonioOfVenice 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

former Brazil President @LulaOficial

Former and almost certainly next President.

According to GG, Brazil has one of the best diplomatic corps in the world, and it would likely play a key role in a negotiated settlement.

Unless the powers that be want to prevent that.

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– Kienan 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Brazil is also way up there in military power. Brazil is often overlooked, but is a actually quite the powerhouse in many respects.

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– dekachin 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The United States and UK did all the same things in WW2. Even now, the US is legally allowed to suspend habeas corpus in times of war. Don't think for 1 second that if we had Chinese hordes occupying a significant part of our country and trying to conquer the rest, that the US wouldn't be even more restrictive than Ukraine is being.

And we'd be right to do so. Existential war is no time to make a priority of civil liberties.

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– SamuelColt 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Even now, the US is legally allowed to suspend habeas corpus in times of war.

Where in the constitution is this stated? Just because Lincoln did it doesn't make it legal (and, by the way, fuck Lincoln for doing it).

Existential war is no time to make a priority of civil liberties.

It's exactly the time to make a priority of civil liberties. Your argument is precisely the one all the Branch Covidians were using to justify their illegal excesses since 2020.

"Omg muh emergency means I can trample all over you." How about NO.

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– dekachin 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Where in the constitution is this stated?

Literally the only place habeas is mentioned in it: "The privilege of the writ of habeas corpus shall not be suspended, unless when in cases of rebellion or invasion the public safety may require it". https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Habeas_corpus_in_the_United_States

It's exactly the time to make a priority of civil liberties.

okbuddyACLU

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– SamuelColt 1 point 3 years ago +1 / -0

Literally the only place habeas is mentioned in it

I stand corrected. (However, that's supposed to only be invoked via Congress, not by illegal presidential decree as Lincoln did.)

okbuddyACLU

A stupid response on its face since the ACLU of 2022 would agree with you, not me.

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