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New York state signed into law sweeping legislation Friday afternoon that bans concealed weapons from “sensitive locations” and requires gun permit applicants to divulge all social media accounts maintained over the past three years as well as references attesting to their “good moral character" (nypost.com)
posted 3 years ago by xleb2 3 years ago by xleb2 +70 / -0
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– APDSmith 43 points 3 years ago +43 / -0

To clarify, the special locations the NY bill bans guns from are:

  • Times Square;
  • Private businesses, except those that post prominent signage (so Antifa know which ones to burn down?);
  • Places of worship;
  • Public transit;
  • Sports arenas;
  • Parks;
  • Libraries;
  • Government buildings;
  • Playgrounds
  • Entertainment venues;
  • Protests
  • Businesses that sell alcohol
  • "among other venues"

I'm reminded of that line from The Incredibles - when everywhere is "special", nowhere is...

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– CarmenOfSandiego 20 points 3 years ago +20 / -0

Thank goodness criminals will totally behave in those places and this won't just make such places easier targets! If it was at all possible for people to just say no a law then there would be so much trouble there might be some strongly worded letters written about things!

/distant summer burning and gunshot noises from Chicago

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– deleted 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0
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– Devidose 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

"OK."

/sips tea

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– dekachin 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

So I think all of these places will fail under strict scrutiny:

Times Square; Public transit; Sports arenas; Parks; Libraries; Government buildings; Playgrounds Entertainment venues; Protests Places of worship Businesses that sell alcohol

Those places are simply too public, and banning guns from them is just an attempt to ban guns in general. It also violates the Constitutional right of those businesses to ALLOW guns.

The following places I think fail strict scrutiny because they are opt-out instead of opt-in. Opt-in MIGHT pass scrutiny, but opt-out certainly does not:

Private businesses, except those that post prominent signage

I think if you want to draft as restrictive a law as possible, you would need to simply allow private businesses to ban guns on their premises, and to ban guns only in places like "legislative assemblies, polling places, and courthouses", not the DMV.

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– Gizortnik 12 points 3 years ago +12 / -0

"We're not banning guns. It's just that some places are so public that we have to ban guns."

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– dekachin 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

NY already tried to argue in Bruen that it should be able to ban guns really broadly under the "sensitive places" rule, and the Court told them NO.

But the Court did not explicitly define what places were and were not "sensitive", so NY is coming back playing the little game of trying to list ALL the places and see what they can get away with.

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– Indipendepede 9 points 3 years ago +9 / -0

More like "When everywhere is gun-free, nowhere is"

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– TakenusernameA 4 points 3 years ago +4 / -0

for criminals

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– Wizardslayer 8 points 3 years ago +8 / -0

For anyone that knows NYC this is pretty much a ban on guns. There are so many parks in NYC that you can technically pass through one while crossing the street.

Also if you're in Manhattan there is always some sort of protest going on. So come out of your apartment building and you might just walk into a protest.

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– Brennus 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

Government buildings, sports arenas, entertainment venues, libraries, businesses that’s sell alcohol, usually all have signs posted saying you can’t carry into them anyway.

I wish the Supreme Court could fast track a case that is clearly about a law that states like New York pass in retaliation of losing a court case.

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– Yakuza 2 points 3 years ago +2 / -0

all have signs posted saying you can’t carry into them anyway

Apparently not good enough. They want to put the burden on businesses that support 2A.

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