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This is like Trump winning the election all over again 😎🍿 (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by user20461 4 years ago by user20461 +36 / -0
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– user20461 [S] 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

I have never found arguments against abortion by pro-lifers to be terribly persuasive.

Are facts not persuasive for you?

  1. It's a scientific fact that life begins at conception.

  2. Government's proper role is to secure rights ("That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men...")

  3. The 5th Amendment is clear: ("nor shall any person... be deprived of life ... without due process of law")

  4. The right to life is the most fundamental right we have. Without it, no other right matters.

Seriously, I have no clue what's not persuasive about any of that, unless you're a liberal and facts/evidence/logic/reason don't matter compared to your feelings.

Edit: oh yeah, babies are being genocided. Even that should fulfill the feelings requirement. Like, do you even have a soul?

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– Kaarous 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

A fetal stage human has a heartbeat and can feel pain well before the point where most abortions take place.

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– KeeperOfTheGate 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Not u/AntonioOfVenice, but I share this belief.

I think abortion is 100% morally wrong. I find it repugnant and think I would be very hard pressed to ever consider an abortion if I were a woman. Perhaps in the case of a severely disabled child.

I support the death penalty. I support lethal self defense. Obviously very different from abortion, but I believe the state should have limited power to end life.

I support in an all cases, at all times, abortion if the mother's life is in peril or if the child was the product of rape or rapeincest. I support at all times abortion if the child would be born severely disabled.

The vast majority of abortions are to young teens/twenties and very poor females. In some, but certainly not all, of these cases, a child is a huge economic drain on a woman or family, and there's a high rate of child neglect and abuse in these situations at all. Bottom line here, if someone doesn't want a child, there's a high frequency of the mother perpetuating the same shitty life situations to the next generation.

I also anti-population growth. From a practical standpoint, I think the country is better off with the extremely poor having a lower birth rate. I think the extremely poor are better off having a lower birth rate.

I would set a cut off point..14-15 weeks. No abortion after that (except rape/incest/life in peril). That covers like 95% of abortions anyway.

Do I have a soul? Who knows. I do know that I find abortion morally repugnant but I am willing to concede there are some situations where it may be a net positive.

I am enthusiastic about this court decision (though I am somewhat nervous about electoral blowback).

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