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posted 4 years ago by ArtemisFoul 4 years ago by ArtemisFoul +16 / -0
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– ArchRespawnsAgain 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

I just can't respect Tim Pool taking this stance. He makes money spouting his opinions and courting controversy for additional exposure. His line of work can actually benefit from "taking a stand" as long as he doesn't go too far, and wouldn't you know it, beanie man is well-known for being an indecisive waffler and terminal moderate.

For people who are going to have to work non-vlogger jobs, it's a lot bigger risk to speak up. It's huge risk with little prospect of reward. Unlike being pro-trans where there is enormous top-down financial support coming from the oligarchs, there is minimal support for doing the opposite. If you expect regular people to begin taking controversial stands, there needs to be support networks where they can still find work.

I've grown tired of liberals huffing their own farts like this. They actually think that history is driven by commoners, as if revolutions and radical changes occur when the average man just had enough of the shit. It's liberals believing their own bullshit. Elites and conflict between them are what drives changes and revolutions. Who are the elites backing any of us?

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

A fair point: he's still on twitter and youtube and puts his toes on the line without crossing it.

This whole tranny situation comes down to accepting reality. Well the other uncomfortable reality one must deal with is most people are unwilling to become pariahs before their lives have even really begun. Most college students simply want to graduate so they can begin adulthood: they aren't trying to make political stances that will make themselves unemployable.

Given that, what is the best way to deal with reality? Almost certainly, quite differently than assuming that most people will willingly thrust themselves into homelessness for some abstract moral principle.

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– ArchRespawnsAgain 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Given that, what is the best way to deal with reality?

The first step is recognizing it in the first place. After that is the real challenge. The right needs to either attract existing elites who are potentially radicals and/or build our own.

These are both difficult. Existing elites have become elites precisely because the current system benefits them. Trans shit is especially appealing to elites as it's a stepping stone toward transhumanism which many elites view as pathway to immortality.

Building ones own elites is also challenging. It requires ground-up building of alternatives to mainstream things. We're seeing alt-tech take this form, and that's a good start, but it takes a long time to develop things here. We will need all sorts of parallel systems.

For now, I suppose it's best to work on option 2 while seeking opportunities for option 1.

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– Assassin47 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

They're already adults, stop treating them like helpless children. Nobody needs them to start a revolution. They just need to stand up for what they want in their own lives. Nobody else can or should do that for them. Do they choose to be judged fairly in competition and not have to look at a feminine penis in the locker room, or do they choose to be labelled a TERF bigot? If nobody speaks out against the man in drag then they must think he's stunning and brave or they don't care enough, so neither do I.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

I'm simply accepting reality as it obviously is: most people (adults included) are not going to put their future in jeopardy over a political stance. The past two years have made that abundantly clear.

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