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Salon admits there's Ukrainian Nazis "but it's a long story" (twitter.com)
posted 4 years ago by YesMovement 4 years ago by YesMovement +89 / -0
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– SupremeReader 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

It's "called battalion" only by clueless Westerners. It's a regiment.

armed by "Israel"

This is an Ukrainian rifle (made in Ukraine, by the Interior Ministry's very own RPC Fort). Stopped reading right there - the header image caption. Not even liars, just worthless idiots. Probably like you.

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– NigaroFagetsu-kun 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

Until 2014 it was called a battalion. Presumably the Ukrainian military uses the regimental naming system, so when it was incorporated as a regular military unit it became a "regiment." It's also called the azov detachment despite having a strength of 1500 fighters, so obviously size is not a factor in the name change; not that "regiment" is really a great description of size in-and-of-itself, but whatever, the fact that the author used the name they've gone by for almost a decade shouldn't be a surprise.

The rifle is a variant of the Tavor TAR-21, designed and initially manufactured by the Israeli defense contractor IWI. This is the 5.45x39 variant produced by RPC Fort under license from IWI who designed it. The design of the rifle is covered by Israeli export control laws, meaning that the Israeli government okayed the plan as they often do in times of foreign civil unrest.

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– SupremeReader 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Not until 2014 but in 2014. For about 4 months when it was a police battalion.

It is not and never was anything military (nor "regular military"), always only just the Interior Ministry.

The gun was intended for the 4th Regiment, but spred all across the National Guard and beyond.

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– NigaroFagetsu-kun 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Regardless of which ministry they fall under, it's a pedantic point.

The Israeli government allowed the licened manufacture to continue knowing that the Ukrainian government had allowed azov to have them. Israel would have had legal authority to force iwi to pull the licensing agreement once they were being provided to azov, but they didn't.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Israel historically was the only country to support Rhodesia and the Apartheid era South Africa (including a nuclear weapons program in the latter case), or the actual Right Wing Death Squads in Lebanon. It's nothing new or surprising they at least wouldn't care about it politically, it's only consistent to their character.

Anyway, the Azov guys have NATO weapons (and actually NATO, not Made in Ukraine) aplenty, too. It's not a big deal despite any hysterical TIME or The New York Times articles about it. "Even" the Azov movement connected informal paramilitaries like the Freikorps are seen having the Javelins or whatever. If they're putting them to good use in overkilling Russian paratroopers in their silly aluminium BMDs and the Chechens in the Tigrs, no one cares about American lefties having a fit.

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– BlueDrache 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

'eh ... It's an interesting article none-the-less but I wouldn't call it "news" by any stretch and it really does shit on the AB.

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– SupremeReader 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

AR (R is for regiment)

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