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posted 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 4 years ago by TheImpossible1 +47 / -0
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– el_hoovy 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

cant wait for george soros to get metood

wait bros... was epstein just rape tortured by feminists to death??

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– el_hoovy 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

who the fuck is prince andrew?

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– Tourgen 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Yes, indeed. "Build Back In a More Feminine Way" is real, they've been saying it, they are serious about it.

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– SupremeReader 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

The black-earth soil, first of all. Then there are coal and uranium mines, and arms plants, and warm water ports, and other strategic interests Russia desires evidently much (including 40 million people).

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Sheningans like https://www.dw.com/en/ukrainian-oligarchs-private-armies-flex-their-muscles/a-18346008

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– SupremeReader 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Not (only) bankers, but it's actively sponsored by oligarchs on both sides. Some literally formed military units, and one bank for example gave their armored cars to their militia. Poroshenko himself had been "king of chocolate" before he became the first war president.

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– Flarisu 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Not to Russia's big-spender ally, that does all their business in USD - China. They need a ton of coal, and since Australia cut them off, and they are in no way shrinking usage despite "promises" to be carbon neutral, Russia is their next best bet.

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– GiveThemNothing 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I'll admit you're right if you can find a single thing of value in Ukraine.

It is primarily about control over the Black Sea and blocking NATO from expanding. Russia and allies (Turkey, Georgia) control the majority of the Black Sea's territorial waters and access through the Bosporus Strait, adding Ukraine would give Russia near total control.

These are prime military routes, as well as Russian gas and oil shipping routes into Europe (via the Mediterranean Sea). Allowing Russian oil and gas to reach Europe and be sold for Euros would seriously threaten the US-Saudi Petro dollar duopoly.

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Russia and allies (Turkey, Georgia)

Surely you want to say, enemies?

Georgia in particular being still at war (ceasefire only and Crimea style occupation of parts). And Turkey-Russia quasi-proxy war continues in places like Syria and Libya (also ceasefires for large scale hostilties, but still).

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– GiveThemNothing 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Good points. As with all things political, they are selectively "allies" when it comes to keeping NATO out of the region. Turkey, specially has a lot to gain from oil/gas commerce going through the strait.

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