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Ignore meta, return to victimhood (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
posted 4 years ago by CarmenOfSandiego 4 years ago by CarmenOfSandiego +39 / -0
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– APDSmith 29 points 4 years ago +29 / -0

Oh ffs. I had to defend bloody McConnell last week, now Goldberg this week.

The thing is, there is a core of a point here. The holocaust was a multi-purpose abomination, and the Nazis actually killed more non-Jews than Jews, if I'm reading these stats right. To claim it as an exclusively Jewish atrocity is not accurate.

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– CarmenOfSandiego [S] 27 points 4 years ago +27 / -0

To claim it as an exclusively Jewish atrocity is not accurate

The "problem" is doing that, [or bringing up other events such as the Holodomor, Armenian Genocide, and whatever else], takes the attention away from those who demand to be treated as both special victims forever but also "equal"/better than others at the same time, hence the repeated instances of turnabout involving "My fellow whites" followed shortly by "I'm not 'white', actually" when backlash happens.

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– SupremeReader 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

They often killed for example Poles due to their self professed (and even defined by their relevantly named Race and Settlement Office of the SS) racial reasons.

Related to this, for example, the crime of "racial defilement" (intimate relations of an "Aryan" with a Polish person): https://rarehistoricalphotos.com/german-woman-public-humiliation-1942/

To think they were just absolutely obsessed with race, very strictly defined and murderously exclusionary, is just as absurd as the ADL's new definition of racism. According to which the Nazis weren't being racist unless occasionally as if they come upon a French colonial soldier (of whom they murdered hundreds in 1940, but so they did with for example numerous surrendering white British soldiers: https://www.nationalww2museum.org/war/articles/chasselay-massacre-june-1940). Just absolutely absurd. Especially if they define themselves (Ashkenazi Jews) as white.

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– APDSmith 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I suppose it's fair to say it was racial without being exclusively anti-Semitic.

Even those of their own people that the Nazis exterminated were killed to improve the Aryan race, as I recall?

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Most Slavs were to be replaced (killed or deported), turned into slaves by those replacing (German farmer settlers), or Germanized. The Lebensraum thing.

But once the decision was made, the geopolitical ambition to control the Eurasian heartland, supported by the assiduous activity of geographers, anthropologists and ethnographers now working for institutes set up by Heinrich Himmler’s SS, became paramount. Hitler hoped that the resources embedded in Eurasia would supply what was necessary to defeat the ‘Anglo-Saxon’ powers and confirm the prediction made in 1919 by Mackinder that whoever controls the heartland (the ‘world island’) would dominate the globe. Mackinder had argued that technology, above all the railway, had transformed the strategic possibilities for whichever powers occupied the heartland. Hitler brought that argument up to date with plans for high-speed Autobahnen (highways) that would reach out across the Eurasian space, transforming the possibility of its development, but also ensuring that power could be projected wherever it was needed to safeguard the heartland’s security.

The paradigm used by German planners was essentially a colonial one. Though historians debate whether there was any direct continuity between German pre-1914 imperialism and the new project in Eurasia, there is no doubt that those engaged in the conquest and pacification of the new geographical zone thought in terms borrowed from the prevailing practice of territorial empire and the long history of racial discrimination and extermination that had accompanied it. Hitler’s famous comment that ‘Russia will be our India’, though it revealed how little he understood British imperialism, also revealed the extent to which the German project was seen as an extension of an existing geopolitical reality. The harsh racial policies, including the eradication of the Jewish population in the East, were part and parcel of a larger ethnic project which foresaw the Germanisation of Eurasia and the extermination of up to 30 million ‘useless eaters’. The remodelling of the entire area was at the core of General Plan East, an ambitious project for the geopolitical transformation of the Eurasian heartland.

The problem confronting Hitler (and the party’s planners and geographers) was obvious at the time. The Soviet Union was not ’empty space’, but was a rapidly arming and modernising industrial giant, with a well-organised state apparatus and a strong sense of identity as the world’s first communist state. Though the invading Germans sneered at what they viewed as primitive living conditions and ‘bestial’ people, when the war ended in August 1945 the whole of Mackinder’s heartland was occupied by the Red Army, from central Europe to Manchuria, and a new era of geopolitical thinking opened up as the Western states confronted the vast Communist bloc constructed after the war’s end. The imperial fantasy that had fed German nationalism for decades was overturned and the metaphorical ‘east’ became a real east of powerful and vengeful armies bent on destroying Germany’s imperial endeavour entirely.

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– CarmenOfSandiego [S] 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Apparently you can't "start a conversation" these days about the wider aspects of something when it would involve removing the SVU label from the totally still most oppressed group in the entire world.

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– Sneak_King 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Computer, why did Whoopi choose the stage name Goldberg?

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– SupremeReader 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

It's not her or her husband's name?

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– CarmenOfSandiego [S] 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Nope.

born Caryn Elaine Johnson

Husband 1

Alvin Martin ​(m. 1973; div. 1979)​

Husband 2

David Claessen ​(m. 1986; div. 1988)​

Husband 3

Lyle Trachtenberg ​(m. 1994; div. 1995)

Meanwhile,

About her stage surname, she claimed in 2011, "My mother did not name me Whoopi, but Goldberg is my name—it's part of my family, part of my heritage, just like being black", and "I just know I am Jewish. I practice nothing. I don't go to temple, but I do remember the holidays."

So she's transJewish.

She has stated that "people would say 'Come on, are you Jewish?' And I always say 'Would you ask me that if I was white? I bet not.'"

If in doubt, play the race card.

One account recalls that her mother, Emma Johnson, thought the family's original surname was "not Jewish enough" for her daughter to become a star.

Mother knew what was up.

Researcher Henry Louis Gates Jr. found that all of Goldberg's traceable ancestors were African Americans, that she had no known German or Jewish ancestry, and that none of her ancestors were named Goldberg. Results of a DNA test, revealed in the 2006 PBS documentary African American Lives, traced part of her ancestry to the Papel and Bayote people of modern-day Guinea-Bissau. Her admixture test indicates that she is of 92 percent sub-Saharan African origin and of 8 percent European origin.

I'm sure she totally accepted this Science™ when it was presented to her.

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– GhostBond 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I've read she believed she'd do better in hollywood if she had a jewish last name. She's very famous and successful now, so...perhaps she was right?

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– Sneak_King 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

lol, no. It was a jewish name so that they'd put her application at the top of the stack.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

I mean, she's not entirely wrong, but she's not exactly right, either.

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– GhostBond 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I honestly think this is some sort of hitpiece on her because she wouldn't agree with the party line about "jews perfect, nazis bad, everything because of racism". I read a slightly longer article on it and it sounded like the other hosts said the usually backwards dumb rhetoric while whoopie said the only sympathetic thing - especially if you realized it's on a high tension talk show and compressed into a few sentences.

It seems to me like they're working to smear anyone who's like a regular human being and tired of their shit.

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– deleted 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0
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– OBRIENMUSTSUFFER 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Like this one?

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– GhostBond 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Obligatory comment about female SS members

Yeah.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VnVCHheKt28

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