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We don't have a misinformation problem, we have a trust problem. Censorship of bad ideas makes people less likely, not more likely, to trust good ideas. Censorship [doesn't] make the misinformation problem disappear but the mistrust problem worse. (on.substack.com)
posted 4 years ago by NotAGlowy 4 years ago by NotAGlowy +38 / -0
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– Archie78 19 points 4 years ago +19 / -0

Misinformation as far as I can tell is merely "stuff what contradicts the narrative"

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– captain-shitpost 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

this. ron paul got censored off twitter for literally citing the CEO of pfizer, directly in context, and it was even a recent comment by the CEO. he basically admitted the quiet part out loud, that 2 jabs doesn't do shit, 3 jabs is ineffective, and that they'd have to tinker to get a different jab working. the statement BTFOs the entire narrative, because additional jabs from this vaccine scientifically do not help.

but ron paul got banned for stating basic facts because it doesn't conform the the narrative.

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– Galean 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

That was clear when they changed from fake news and disinformation to misinformation.

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– acp_k2win 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

I used to be a lolbertarian and heavy handed censorship is one of the mechanisms that "radicalized" me to auth right.

I was never interested in coontown or fatpeoplehate until reddit banned them.

Curiosity sent me to the voat diaspora of coontown and it made me realize that I had been lied to my whole life. The media I consumed and my public education created this caricature of "racists" as overt cartoonish villains. When the reality was that most of the people on that forum just wanted to vent about stupid shit black people did and critique/mock the obviously dysfunctional black culture. And for no good reason this isn't allowed in any mainstream public forum. There really wasn't any of the "hate" that I had been told was the defining characteristic of that group.

fatpeoplehate was just really funny.

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– NotAGlowy [S] 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

I loved fatpeoplehate. Are there any alternatives?

It seems wrong that society currently celebrates weight gain.

And it is clearly self inflicted in 99% of cases.

In effect society is creating more fatties

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– acp_k2win 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

there is a fatpeoplehate group on gab

But only a handful of members and almost no content

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– BoberFett 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

There's a new FatPeopleHate here at .win.

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– captain-shitpost 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

think it was AMC... one of the TV networks tried to do a reality TV show on white supremacists. they caught up with a local group somewhere in backwoods nowhere. the guys would basically just sit around the campfire or some shithole bar talking about stuff, and occasionally they blame something on blacks, latinos, or jews. the producers were struggling to find enough sound bites to even fill the whole show, and when the producers pushed them to actually go do something, they looked at the producers funny. the show was dropped after only a few episodes.

the number of white supremacists in the US is laughably low for how much media coverage gets, and the demand for white supremacists oppressing people has outpaced the supply so much that there are far more hate crime hoaxes committed by minorities than actual hate crimes against minorities.

of course, black on white hate crime is NEVER charged as a hate crime, even when the perps are openly bragging on video about it being clearly a hate crime.

the mainstream narrative on white supremacy is just pure horse shit, which is why the marxists switched to accusing everyone of being racist with all that "institutional racism" boogeyman bullshit.

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– Assassin47 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

This is true. Censorship makes it easier for propagandists to believe their own lies. Censorship also makes it harder for us to discern truth from fiction. (didn't read the whole essay so maybe this is what it concludes) Humans have a natural capability for discernment. Critical thinking. The bullshit detector. Censorship and controlled sources of information cause us to outsource that capability to someone else. Like muscles, any capability not used eventually atrophies and we end up needing someone else to tell us truth from fiction. We end up placing our trust in some individual, group, or "the system" instead of ourselves. That can be even more dangerous that any misinformation was in the first place.

I noticed the same effects in elderly people who don't quite have dementia but their faculties are slowing down. They fall into two groups: 1) They trust everyone too much. They are easily scammed or overcharged for things because they were raised in a high trust society and aren't used to having to be cautious. OR 2) They trust nobody to the point of paranoia. It's hard to help them when they need it. They've been burned too many times and can no longer tell when something is actually true so they default to mistrust.

Not training our own sense of discernment causes the same atrophied loss of critical thinking even in the young. Some of us will place all our trust in organizations that protect us, the state, or the nice man on TV who gives us the truth and tells us who the bad guys are. The rest of us won't trust anything at all, which is probably safer in today's world but that can lead to tin-foil hat wearing and not having any rational foundation for our beliefs. The powers that be who wish to create a Brave New World prefer the first type of subject, but the second type can also serve as useful tools and convenient enemies.

So I'd argue that with ubiquitous Internet and social media, a little trolling and misinformation is a good thing. We NEED bullshit and misinformation from time to time to keep ourselves wise and trained to tell the difference between fact and fiction. Social media companies legitimately trying to "fight misinformation" actually hurt everyone in the long term.

Thank you for listening to my Ted Talk.

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