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You knew it was coming (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– RealDrJester 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

This has been the common goal of all leftists, the biggest note are the leftists of the nazi party who tried to normalize it. Thank fuck Capitalism stopped these socialists.


“SHE MAKES A SENSUAL IMPRESSION”: THE SEXUAL ABUSE OF CHILDREN


Other scholars have examined the abuse of children by German soldiers; however, they have not examined in detail the ways in which male and female children were conceived of by the German military and Nazi regime, nor have they analyzed the ways in which abusers were discussed.32

Although the law against the sexual abuse of children, §176 section 3,329 gives the age of consent as 14, which means all sexual contact with a child under that age was to be legally punished, what the documents indicate is if the judges or accused believed the child looked over 14, charges of child abuse were not lodged, or could be dismissed. Furthermore, the judges believed female children could entice soldiers into sexual activity; they were held responsible for the sexual abuse, although that belief was counter to the law. Moreover, determinations of punishment were not based on whether a standard of evidence had been met, on whether the soldier had sexually abused a minor, but rather on the perceived effect of that abuse. Mitigating circumstances could be offered if the judge believed the girl to be un-traumatized by the abuse and if the judge believed the girl had not been morally damaged; there is never an explanation of how a female child should have behaved to demonstrate trauma, nor is there an explanation of how moral damage was gauged.330

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By contrast, those men believed to be good soldiers, to have adhered to norms of military, German, and Nazi masculinity were often favored with excuses that could result in a lesser punishment. In cases of child abuse, parallel mitigating factors were available for men who abused female children and female children were subject to gendered evaluations of behavior. If female children were found to have acted in some way contrary to expectations, or if they were physically developed beyond their age, according to the judge, they were frequently blamed for having instigated the sexual contact; the judges also believed that they were, as sexually experienced individuals, less traumatized by sexual violence

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Rape was not a concern for the Nazi party, nor was the prosecution of incest, and after an initial spike in rates of criminality for the abuse of children, there was a decline in the late 1930s. The decline in prosecution of cases in which women and children were the primary victims—rape, incest, and violations of §176 section 3—suggest to Dickinson, that “[d]espite their rhetoric, the Nazis were not in truth terribly committed to the family.”3

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In 1940, two men, Soldat Georg E. and Schütze Richard L. were charged with, but tried separately for having sexual contact with two underage German girls.336 Georg E. was accused of, over several days, kissing a girl, reaching under her skirt and touching

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The accused could guess in good faith, that witness W. was already 14 years old.” He continued: “According to the circumstances, [the girls] sought out the contact with the accused. The court therefore is of the belief that both the girls did not object to the immoral efforts of the accused.” Richard L. was acquitted because W. appeared older than she was; she appeared to be fourteen years old, and thus Richard L. could not be charged with violating the law against sexual contact with a minor under the age of fourteen

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In his sentencing opinion, the judge said that “without question, [she] is developed far beyond her age, and makes a considerably older impression than 13 years.” The victim stated in her testimony that she told the accused how old she was, but the judge dismissed her statement in the following way: Even if [she] should have given the accused her exact age, it does not seem impossible that the accused thought that this statement of age, as it often happens with females, was not fact but flirting, because the condition of [her] body which was developed far beyond her actual age and her experience and cavalier attitude in sexual matters seem to speak too clearly against [her being thirteen]

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He had placed a seven year-old German girl on his lap, “played with her in peculiar ways,” and touched her on the buttocks. One month later, he touched her on her stomach, just above her genitals. According to the court, the girl was the daughter of a father who had been sterilized, and a mother whose morals were questionable. The judge believed that what the defendant had done was “not of a very severe nature,” and questioned the role of the victim by saying that she was “not entirely morally pure,” and that she had “very much accommodated the efforts and propensities of the accused.”

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Unteroffizier Peter G. was accused of abusing a ten year-old girl, but was charged with drunkenness rather than child abuse.352 The judge harshly criticized the accused because the crime could damage the reputation of the Wehrmacht in the occupied territories, and because “as an Unteroffizier, [he] was supposed to behave flawlessly and to always keep a grip on [himself], also after drinking alcohol.” The judge believed the accused deserved a “considerable” punishment because he “violated the reputation and honor of the Unteroffizierkorps in severe ways,” and because the crime was “damnable.”


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– Assassin47 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

No, what you're talking about was endemic to German culture. The Nazis just lied about eliminating it, like most groups trying to gain power. The thing about a judge "believing a child to look over the age of 14" was also common in a lot of countries - and probably still is in some. Some judges being perverted old men also has nothing to do with Germany specifically.

This is like blaming the Taliban for Bacha bazi. Yeah they're terrible in their own way but have nothing to do with that.

Even if you're talking about leftists in general, I don't think they all want that. That is the endgame of their "break down the family" ideology but many don't realize it. But much of this stuff happens in traditional cultures too.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

perverted old men also has nothing to do with Germany specifically

Only possible if you were a nazi. Otherwise, the key was thrown away.

I don't think they all want that.

I was talking in general terms. It would be pretty difficult if I were to list a bunch of people like, "nazis, antifa, certain communists, some LGBT..." I would be here all day.

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– WeedleTLiar 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Oh great, it's the anti-else

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– anonymous570861 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

else

I am guessing you're talking about the user that is also called Then , who posts on ConsumeProduct .Win ?

I like his info dumps & memes, even though he can sometimes make dumb decisions like accussing anyone & everyone of being shills & glowies if they disagree with him.

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

They have been at it for decades, trying to normalize this garbage.

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– SupremeReader 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Why not go straight to Dirlewanger? Fucking real horrorshow and only because he was given practically unlimited power over people despite being widely despised by his comrades and superiors, and he had been relatively harmless during peacetime and even "persecuted" by his own. Also the nightmare of WWI made him so. As explained by the top comment at https://www.quora.com/Who-was-Oskar-Dirlewanger (expand the top answer, skip the other answers and read elsewhere about him during WWII if you want so).

https://www.quora.com/Is-Nazi-officer-Oskar-Dirlewanger-depicted-in-any-movie being an interesting "technical" thread even as the top answer guy tries to whitewash them with just "some war crimes" which was is ridiculous as they hardly ever did anything but war crimes.

People will always be more attracted by stories than reality. They want things that shocks, not boring and “politically incorrect” historical facts. They will rather prefer a horror story of some band of nazi psychopaths who butchered an entire school even tho historically, besides rumors of some unknown eye witness there's no evidence of.

Yeah, except it wasn't a school, it was an orphanage (Christian Orthodox) and the guy can over come here an find the mass grave site near the restored Jan Klimak church. (The witness is also not "unknown", it was a German veteran, and he thought it was "some kind of school" because he had no idea, just a lot of children.) It was also nothing particularly special for Dirlewanger.

And Come and See is hardly "Soviet propaganda", and it's an allegory. It's so much different than let's say an usual Yugoslav partisan movie, the silly genre parodied in Underground. An interesting and even more "religious" Soviet partisan film is The Ascent.

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– RealDrJester 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Fascinating indeed.

And he practically only received a small slap on the wrist "Himmler, SS leader and right arm of Hitler, advises him to calm down and sends him to Spain in 36"

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– SupremeReader 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There was a quite The Kindly Ones style memoir of one of his men published recently: https://www.historynet.com/book-review-the-ss-sonderkommando-dirlewanger-edited-by-rolf-michaelis.htm

did nothing wrong

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– RealDrJester 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Oskar Dirlewanger is a case in point, a man whose vaulting ambition and sadistic cruelty facilitated his rapid rise from imprisoned pedophile to senior officer in the Waffen-SS, leading a private army of poachers, penal troops and foreign collaborators.

Thank you for this source. I shall add into the list. I do have to say that you may catch some hate from the stormcuckers posting here.

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