France is probably a better ally to the US than Israel is.
Over time, I have come to the conclusion that France is weird as far as allies go. We butt heads constantly. We shit on each others culture frequently. We make fun of each others people and history. And sometimes we even start threatening to throw hands. But then when someone else threatens one of us, the response of the other is more or less "Hey, only I'm allowed to bully him!"
But the over all point still stands. As time has gone on and my patience for the worlds bullshit has waned, I am come to agree with a theory I have heard recently: Cut off almost everyone in that chunk of the world and give them the finger, with the UK and France being our only allies in the area. Then turn American foreign policy to look at the Americas and the Pacific, and if anyone comes calling not from those regions, just tell them "not my problem." My only addendum would be cutting in the Czechs, as they seem to be moving in a positive direction and seem to value freedom and liberty.
The thing is, that attitude permeates the French intelligentsia. They've always kind of hated us because we got way bigger than them and they think their shit can't physically stink. That being said, the French also know when the Americans are attempting to dominate them, and they don't take kindly to that shit either. They aren't the British and won't just accept our hegemony. I can respect them for that, but the Brit-Bongs are right, they are still cunts.
I'd prefer America aim more towards Africa, S. American and the Pacific. Liberating those two continents from Socialism would do everyone a world of good.
Now that I am thinking about it some more, our relationship with France kind of reminds me of brothers (at least my brother). We would fight, kick each other, and try to establish dominance over the other, but if someone else did something to one of us, the other would step in to defend them. I suppose its fitting since the US and the modern French come from similar ideological backgrounds, so one could argue we are brothers.
And fair point on Africa. Actually, IIRC, a lot of African nations hold shockingly high opinions of the US. I just looked at the most recent poll, and there are 3 African countries in the top 11 (the top 11 being Vietnam, Israel, The Philippines, S. Korea, Poland, Nigeria, Hungary, Italy, Ghana, Tanzania, and Japan). Also a lot of Asian nations, which I think just backs up the point that has been made by many that Americas future is in the Pacific.
Standing up for America is more important than standing up for Israel when you are part of USA government
How can the secretary of state of the USA say the most important task of his job is standing up for another nation than his own? Do you not see the absurdness here?
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Why is it absurd? Israel has given America a lot of intelligence, and technical knowhow. For instance the Iron Dome technology is now on America's hands.
In exchange for $680 million for Israel’s Iron Dome short-range rocket defense system, Washington wants “appropriate rights” to the Israeli-developed technology and U.S.-based coproduction of the system’s high-speed intercepting missiles.
Israel has deployed three Iron Dome batteries and a fourth is in final stages of acceptance testing with the Israel Air Force’s Air Defense Command. The first two batteries were funded by Israel’s shekel-based defense budget while the $205 million appropriated by Congress last year were used to fund the third and fourth batteries as well as two additional batteries now being produced by an Israeli industrial team led by state-owned Rafael.
Israeli sources say the proposed $680 million in additional funding will cover another four complete Iron Dome batteries, which include an Eltamultimission radar, Iron Dome launchers, Tamir interceptors and the system’s command-and-control unit.
You said most of the funding, when only now america paid for 8 out of 15 batteries. Initial funding and research done in Israel.
Therefore contradicting your claims.
It's absurd because Israel has a long history of never really co-operating with us. You'll note that they are not even within the FIVE EYES network when it comes to security.
Israel always goes with whatever is in Israel's best interests first and foremost, even at American expense. We don't even have much of a say in their actions and strategy. Israel really does have a mostly one way relationship with us, and they aren't prepared to play our games.
In their history, they've refused to share intel with us, they've assassinated targets we'd rather keep alive, they've lied to our faces about their intentions for war, and I don't even think we have any clear understanding of their current nuclear capabilities.
I'm not going to say they are a rogue state or anything, but they don't play ball with us. We play ball with them, and we don't get much out of it most of the time besides some occasional thanks, and the demand that we should be grateful for them not stepping directly on our dick.
I'm pretty sure the only reason they didn't launch air-strikes on Saddam in the Gulf War and upend the entire US coalition was because they knew that we could castrate the Iraqi military if we kept the coalition with the Saudis. It just happened that our interests were in line with theirs. The fact that one of our major strategic objectives in the war was to keep Israel out of it, is a real indicator of how one-sided the relationship is. No matter what happened with Saddam, Israel was going to benefit by seeing one of it's biggest threats get smoked, and we still had to hope that they wouldn't fuck off and blow the whole thing up in our face. The Iraqi SCUD threat is what lead to the creation of the PATRIOT system that was implemented in Israel, and what would eventually lead to the Iron Dome. Again, we didn't just ask Israel not to enter the war, we built them an anti-missile defense system and attacked Iraqi missile sites to keep them from jumping in, and it was still hit or miss about whether or not they would.
As I've said elsewhere, when it comes to good allies for the US, I'd put Israel under France.
I'm not going to say they are a rogue state or anything, but they don't play ball with us. We play ball with them, and we don't get much out of it most of the time besides some occasional thanks, and the demand that we should be grateful for them not stepping directly on our dick.
It's the highest form of saber-rattling, but if push comes to shove, especially with them talking about dropping nukes on Moscow if was truly all-or-nothing, then a nuclear retaliation would be legitimate.
It's absurd if you take it literally instead of a rhetorical virtue signal to powerful DC interest groups he needs in his pocket to run for high office.
If you take it figuratively it's still pretty absurd, in a different way.
It is absurd because the most important duty of the Secretary of State of a country is to stand FOR THAT COUNTRY. This is why no one takes you seriously; you mindlessly jump to defend shit that is clearly indefensible.
The United States secretary of state is an officer of the United States who implements foreign policy for the U.S. government as the head of the U.S. Department of State.
It is LITERALLY the job of a Secretary of the State to do what he did.
Canada is a more important ally than Israel.
We have a border with them.
France is probably a better ally to the US than Israel is.
Over time, I have come to the conclusion that France is weird as far as allies go. We butt heads constantly. We shit on each others culture frequently. We make fun of each others people and history. And sometimes we even start threatening to throw hands. But then when someone else threatens one of us, the response of the other is more or less "Hey, only I'm allowed to bully him!"
But the over all point still stands. As time has gone on and my patience for the worlds bullshit has waned, I am come to agree with a theory I have heard recently: Cut off almost everyone in that chunk of the world and give them the finger, with the UK and France being our only allies in the area. Then turn American foreign policy to look at the Americas and the Pacific, and if anyone comes calling not from those regions, just tell them "not my problem." My only addendum would be cutting in the Czechs, as they seem to be moving in a positive direction and seem to value freedom and liberty.
The thing is, that attitude permeates the French intelligentsia. They've always kind of hated us because we got way bigger than them and they think their shit can't physically stink. That being said, the French also know when the Americans are attempting to dominate them, and they don't take kindly to that shit either. They aren't the British and won't just accept our hegemony. I can respect them for that, but the Brit-Bongs are right, they are still cunts.
I'd prefer America aim more towards Africa, S. American and the Pacific. Liberating those two continents from Socialism would do everyone a world of good.
Now that I am thinking about it some more, our relationship with France kind of reminds me of brothers (at least my brother). We would fight, kick each other, and try to establish dominance over the other, but if someone else did something to one of us, the other would step in to defend them. I suppose its fitting since the US and the modern French come from similar ideological backgrounds, so one could argue we are brothers.
And fair point on Africa. Actually, IIRC, a lot of African nations hold shockingly high opinions of the US. I just looked at the most recent poll, and there are 3 African countries in the top 11 (the top 11 being Vietnam, Israel, The Philippines, S. Korea, Poland, Nigeria, Hungary, Italy, Ghana, Tanzania, and Japan). Also a lot of Asian nations, which I think just backs up the point that has been made by many that Americas future is in the Pacific.
Standing up for America is more important than standing up for Israel when you are part of USA government
How can the secretary of state of the USA say the most important task of his job is standing up for another nation than his own? Do you not see the absurdness here?
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And it remains as correct both times. Putting a different nation than the one you are in charge of before your own is absurd.
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Did I lie?
No he wouldn't. You have to slowly build up to sperging out about Jews to not immediately get identified as a glowie/shill/infiltrator.
There is a sus in there, clearly a Freudian slip, probably maf.
Statements like this from any govt. official, even if they are only Director of US Garbage Collection should be grounds for treason
He's lost a lot of weight compared to his profile picture. I bet he's planning to run for president or VP.
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Why is it absurd? Israel has given America a lot of intelligence, and technical knowhow. For instance the Iron Dome technology is now on America's hands.
lol, that's the least they could do since we paid for it.
Not really, paid only parts of it, with most of the funding coming from Israel.
We paid for eight of the ten current batteries and just gave a billion in additional funding. Do you just make stuff up to support your position?
https://archive.ph/20130121085419/http://www.defensenews.com/article/20120430/DEFREG04/304300003/U-S-Attaches-Strings-Israeli-Iron-Dome-Funds#selection-1565.0-1565.238
None of that contradicts anything I said.
You said most of the funding, when only now america paid for 8 out of 15 batteries. Initial funding and research done in Israel. Therefore contradicting your claims.
You might want to read a little more carefully, big guy.
It's absurd because Israel has a long history of never really co-operating with us. You'll note that they are not even within the FIVE EYES network when it comes to security.
Israel always goes with whatever is in Israel's best interests first and foremost, even at American expense. We don't even have much of a say in their actions and strategy. Israel really does have a mostly one way relationship with us, and they aren't prepared to play our games.
In their history, they've refused to share intel with us, they've assassinated targets we'd rather keep alive, they've lied to our faces about their intentions for war, and I don't even think we have any clear understanding of their current nuclear capabilities.
I'm not going to say they are a rogue state or anything, but they don't play ball with us. We play ball with them, and we don't get much out of it most of the time besides some occasional thanks, and the demand that we should be grateful for them not stepping directly on our dick.
I'm pretty sure the only reason they didn't launch air-strikes on Saddam in the Gulf War and upend the entire US coalition was because they knew that we could castrate the Iraqi military if we kept the coalition with the Saudis. It just happened that our interests were in line with theirs. The fact that one of our major strategic objectives in the war was to keep Israel out of it, is a real indicator of how one-sided the relationship is. No matter what happened with Saddam, Israel was going to benefit by seeing one of it's biggest threats get smoked, and we still had to hope that they wouldn't fuck off and blow the whole thing up in our face. The Iraqi SCUD threat is what lead to the creation of the PATRIOT system that was implemented in Israel, and what would eventually lead to the Iron Dome. Again, we didn't just ask Israel not to enter the war, we built them an anti-missile defense system and attacked Iraqi missile sites to keep them from jumping in, and it was still hit or miss about whether or not they would.
As I've said elsewhere, when it comes to good allies for the US, I'd put Israel under France.
It's either that or the Samson Option.
It's the highest form of saber-rattling, but if push comes to shove, especially with them talking about dropping nukes on Moscow if was truly all-or-nothing, then a nuclear retaliation would be legitimate.
Don't forget that Mossad Honeypot they used to blackmail everyone.
It's absurd if you take it literally instead of a rhetorical virtue signal to powerful DC interest groups he needs in his pocket to run for high office.
If you take it figuratively it's still pretty absurd, in a different way.
It is absurd because the most important duty of the Secretary of State of a country is to stand FOR THAT COUNTRY. This is why no one takes you seriously; you mindlessly jump to defend shit that is clearly indefensible.
Former U.S. SecState, CIA Director.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/United_States_Secretary_of_State
It is LITERALLY the job of a Secretary of the State to do what he did.
His job is literally to implement foreign policy to the benefit of the UNITED STATES.
And does it benefit the US having another Syria/Gaza/Lebanon in the region?
Let me check my map- and nope that region doesn't say "United States" so don't care.
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