I don't go to talk about my favorite games anymore because it's all circle jerking and 'My favorite' topics over and over again no theories or anything that requires thinking that you can't just post a WIKIA link too or otherwise they think your trolling.
I got banned because I incited deeper thought conversation which is supposedly a crime now that can't be covered by a wiki article or something. 😢 Nobody gives a shit now beyond 'I broooooooke my Swiiiiiiiiitch' or 'Grandma got a free Swiiiiiiiiiiiiitch!' which gets 500 or more votes. And most posts are just memes of people doing shitty things in their game offering no conversation pattern beyond hive mind responses.
My eyes are really bothering me so I cannot explain better. 😢
Someone will give you a proper answer, but what I want to know is how someone washes up here and can't answer that question already
It's because I did my own shopping and found bad results even on the forefront they look inviting till you actually participate. Since you seem to know the universal secrets care to share?
Breh, you're on an exile site of the exile group of the gamergate subreddit. I'm honestly just confused about how you ended up here knowing nothing about leftist takeover of gaming cultural spaces.
Other people have given you real answers to your question though, as my drunk self predicted they would
I do know about leftist takeovers but that's for the big sites though. I'm talking of smaller sites that used to be immune.
What's a good spot to ask this then or anything about online censorship?
I've been lurking for ages and finally, there's something I have personal experience with. Time for a wall of text.
During my mid-to-late teens, I was actually deeply involved in Zelda fansites, and it's only been recently that the social circles that came out of that era have begun to dissolve. Most of this probably isn't new, and I don't have any big inside scoops from the time, but I can at least say I was there.
First, you need to understand that half the "staff" we had were actual children and teenagers. No joke, one of the writers for Nintendo Castle was 11. These days, I don't really buy the "useful idiot" explanation, as prog circles are encroaching on RTLM territory, but it definitely applied to them. Their Facebook feeds, at the time full of prog propaganda, might as well have been scripture. Absolutely no critical thinking, and a desperate need to be a part of something. In other words, socially weak and easily manipulated.
One time, for like a month, socialization and work both came to a screeching halt because one of the new guys was incredibly annoying, but nobody could dredge up the will to boot him because they were afraid they'd be seen as a bad person.
The real problem people were the webmasters and their clique. Now, at least at the time, these people weren't pedos (these days they probably would be), but you can only imagine the sort of trainwreck of an adult actually wants to run a site when the main job is trying to wrangle children into doing their completely-optional homework. For some, such as the original webmaster of the site I was primarily involved in, it was just that he was a manchild. He may have been in college, but he really did have more in common with us high school Freshmen than his peers. He was genuine in his love for the games, but the site itself was just a crutch until he emotionally caught up with where he was in life. These are the weak guys who get latched onto by parasitical progs and used to push their own politics in their tiny internet fiefdom.
For the rest, they were broken narcissists who wanted to be internet famous. These are the guys who would take over sites when the previous webmasters would inevitably step down, only to combine the sites later on (Zelda Dungeon and Zelda Universe were infamous for this sort of thing). They have a more symbiotic relationship with the true believer progs, since they're resistant and (sometimes) competent enough to guide their sites in a generally useful direction, rather than just being sucked dry.
In both cases, the cliques were made up of one or two of the weak men or narcissists, and the true believer fanatics.
(I mentioned Nintendo Castle earlier. That's one unusual example that doesn't fit the usual two categories. The webmaster of that site was also an actual child, maybe 12-13. During its heyday, I don't think a single person working there was older than 14.)
As far as what they did for work, it wasn't much. Most of it was probably spent writing and rewriting staff pages, usually for their own benefit. Rather than try to organize the staff, they'd just write them off and get new ones - there were always more kids who thought writing for a website would be cool. They'd make alterations to articles, without consulting the original writer, usually for SEO, sometimes fucking up the articles themselves. Basically, fansites were the Screenrant prototype, but even more exploitative.
But what they really did is try to become a brand, and some of them are still doing it to this day. I know one guy in particular who is still, over a decade later, constantly trying to catch the attention of minor internet celebrities and organizations in hopes that they'll give him his breakthrough moment. He dropped the fansites he spent ages managing, not because he was tired of the job, but because fansites were dying and they no longer served his purpose. Now he hashtags and @'s on Twitter all day, every day. And it's all fake. I'm not sure he even has a soul anymore.
These days though, fansites are basically dead. So, while none of this is new, you're talking about the bottom of the barrel. You're not just getting the same old narcissist wrangling sociopaths for his own benefit, you're getting the lowest quality versions of these people. Progs and opportunists are usually pretty clever - it's why propaganda and manipulation is so sophisticated now - but these people are dumb as fuck. They can't hack it as /r/games mods, or even as /r/zelda mods. They have to boot stomp because they haven't curated a community that will attack you on site, because they don't know how to manipulate their forums and subreddits to change the perceived majority opinion and can't word the rules in such a way to serve themselves while hiding behind (im)plausible deniability.
I don't know how to end this essay. I would post Neco-Arc with a 200 lbs ass but it'd break rule 5.
I never did the fansite thing, mostly because I'm in my mid-thirties, so by the time I found them I was probably 20, and they always seemed to be stupid rumors from people who knew no more than me, and I wasn't that fanatical about anything I liked that I needed to constantly read about it.
Still, I'm reminded of a kid I knew at university -- he was 14 and a junior in college -- who loved Pokemon so much. He would go to anime club and just watch pokemon on his laptop, rather than whatever they were showing. Turns out another person who went to the club -- a normal-aged freshman -- ran some big Pokemon fan site the kid loved.
Such a memorable moment seeing a prepubescent kid super excited, saying "you're [username redacted]!?!", with the grumpy zero social skills freshman completely blowing off the kid. Maybe he just didn't know how to react, but what it looked like was that this young fansite admin was just a jerk; I doubt he got much better with age. I kept up with the kid until I got rid of social media, he's a transgender antifa influencer or something now, so perhaps the moral of the story is don't look up to site admins or reddit mods?
Edit: heh, I still know the guy's username, which found me the site. Turns out he isn't an admin (at least not anymore, maybe never was), but is still very active on the site posting articles. It's been over a decade, he probably is 30 now; maybe he is a true believer, or maybe he is one of the vampires.
I remember the rumor mill phenomenon. The webmasters usually knew they were bullshit, since they almost inevitably spawned on somebody else's forum, but their opinion was "lol who cares" because you had to pad the feed between releases somehow. I guess it wasn't a big deal though. Nobody was going to Link's Hideaway
to actually get Zelda newsat all, so it's not like it hurt anyone. It was mostly just socially-awkward kids entertaining themselves while retarded young adults try to get something out of it. Still, it's a look into how more "professional" sites operate.I do know a few people who are still doing it these days, in their late 20s and early 30s. Most of them quit a long time ago, and only returned because it was something they remembered being proud of. A few defunct sites were totally remade in the last couple years as some of the old guard rolled back in, just trying to grasp something of value. I've seen a lot of old acquaintances try, and fail, to get their old circles back. They're exactly the same, but half of their old friends are now lunatics, and the only sane people don't want anything to do with it anymore.
Thanks! You talked a lot about social media but I'm more into the niche forums that started to grow like Zelda Universe and Dungeon do you think those sites got taken over by the Progs and opportunists? I see the comments there seemed very controlled like a Borg hivemind.
Well most of the internet has been. I think it's basically the same dynamic, though it ended up there in a different way.
I left a bit out in that useful idiots sometimes become true believers (more or less*), which is something you see more often with old-style forums. That's at least something I've seen on Doom forums. That said, it's been ages since I've been a regular at ZD and ZU, and while they've definitely become prog hazard zones, I have no idea if it was the result of new blood coming in, or old blood being radicalized. My suspicion is that ZU is run by true believers, and ZD by wannabe-celebrities, but that's just from a glance and decade-old impressions. Whatever the case, none of those sites had any immunity to progification. The conditions for it were always there, whether it be weak-willed leaders or narcissists looking to wield the prog beast as a weapon.
I've gotten banned on ZD and nearly banned on ZU and one person Baton Rouge told me it's an SJW wet dream which is why none of my game topics got much noticed. My topics are more interested in exploring gameplay concepts and What If's,etc that require actual thought.
They just want the same old stupid shit posts.
There's a lot of hidden 'No No' words you don't know what they are that aren't actually part of what you'd think WOULD be no no words.
The larger the group, the more the monke.
The larger the group the WHAT? I think I get what your saying
What you are glimpsing are the tentacles of a soft totalitarian regime. The larger and more visible a forum becomes the more likely it is ti be targeted by insane progressives, particular those that discuss corporate products. Often it is captured by a corporate PR lackey, but they are also susceptible to tranny jannies that just get off on power. This is a much larger problem that can only be solved by a purge of the entire managerial elite class, which is governed by an international cult of satanic pedophiles.
Well back in 2011-2014 Zelda Universe had a lot of members that no longer exist. There was this one member that pretended to be Fi I thought was fun but for a short while the registration didn't work then somehow a bunch of purging a year later happened. I can see why either they left or were deleted. Not sure which but 2/3rds of the forum based just vanished and you'd think Breath of the Wild would triple the members considering how successful it sold and how long it was successful.
Two years later players discovered insane things they could do with the physics engine by natural manipulation. Look up things you STILL didn't know you could do in BOTW to see what I mean.
The reason you aren't seeing forum growth despite the success of BOTW is twofold: reddit has eaten the forum space and the overwhelming majority of players are bugmen casuals whose idea of nerding out is buying funkopops.
Tangential note: NFT's seem to be a scam and joke, but they still are a better purchase than a Funkopop figure because they don't clutter your house.
How come on Youtube there's all sorts of serious players that actually give a damn and want to break the limits of the game and find all there is to find? Unfortunately YT has made it so you have to be literally live on the chatroom to be seen which goes by too fast. I'm on a computer and most people are on phones so it's all f'ked up.
YT is great for lore videos but sucks for discussions of said videos.
I figured with how popular BOTW is (and still is) someone would make an ultimate BOTW website where all discussion can take place there and people can share experiences, Criticism, funny moments,etc and art/media,etc. Back in 1999 if BOTW was released I can guarantee people would have been creative with websites on it much like Ocarina of Time was.
You live in the age of the walled garden corporate internet. The time you remember of a half dozen search engines, each actually requiring going through multiple pages, and investing effort into figuring out which of two dozen different fansites you found from culling though those were actually good is gone.
Most of that lazy approach lies at the feet of many more people getting easy pocket access to the internet with smartphones, which are much harder and slower to navigate with. Easy first answers and whatever friends recommend get much more popular and sort of turn into black holes catching any other created sites in their orbit and crunching things down to one central source.
As plenty of other people have now explained, once you have that one centrally located critical mass that destroys the ability to have any other reasonable population site discussing something, it turns into a tempting target for outside predators and parasites looking to turn "we discuss this game" into "you must repeat the right politics first if you also want to talk about this game on the side."
I've noticed that too everything is 'politics first' now. BOTW discussion or any Zelda game discussion for that matter is moved aside for stupid meme pictures and 'Gee Har Har Har' which is actually the name of a shrine.
Also a name of a shrine s 'Jee No Shrine' which pronounced 'Gee No Shrine' and yes it actually is no shrine they just give you the spirit orb as a 'blessing'.
What is it like to navigate the web on a phone?
What are bugmen casuals and funkopops?
Bugmen casual as in your average metropolitan consumer with the attention span of a flea who has to look at his phone every few minutes. Casual in the sense that they don't play the game as much as hardcore players do.
Funkopops are these stupid little action figures.
So would they be the people in BOTW who boss rush to the final bad guy and ignore all the in between moments and not caring at all about the livelyhoods of some of the memorable NPC's? Yes there are a few out there and they thank you if you do a sidequest/save them,etc.
Rule number 1 of the internet: all moderators are faggots.
Retards took over. They don't like thinking. Anything that requires critical analysis or even creativity on their part is verboten.
It is the action of passive vs active in any object or activity. They want to passively move through life not making any decisions or have any say in the way things go. That is why they handover so much control of their day-to-day lives. The fear of being responsible for once own actions, of having to make decisions, of being held accountable, of just growing up, of being WRONG is far too strong of an instinct for them to fight. They have grown up physically with the media and the world in general telling them there is two sides to every coin, and only two. Shades of gray don't exist, because a bad person will be good at the end of the day if they were good inside and a good person will be bad at the end of the day despite having been good all along because they will slip up and admit they had a bad thought inside.
You can never be good enough, you must always feel guilt, through your guilt and drive to punish others, only can you be absolved of that original sin. They are christians in all but name.
These days virtually all fan forums are run by a mixture of a tranny janny clique and either a marketing firm or employees of the company that owns the product.
No one involved wants you to have meaningful discussions. They want you to consoom product and get excited for next product. This means creating artificial interest through sock puppets and bots to create an environment where only the most banal posts rise to the top and therefore only those posts are created under the reddit-type system.
The trannies are the ones who do the day to day purging because they have nothing better to and they get off on it. They'll also get occasional small kickbacks from the company for their effort. The main appeal, however, is leading impressionable children to their discord servers so that the trannies can groom them.
You've taken the first step into realizing the truth, my friend. Virtually all online content these days is heavily curated to force a narrative.
I wasn't talking about Reddit though. Your all stuck on Reddit I guess that's all you know. I'm talking of smaller forums like Zelda Dungeon or Mushroom Kingdom.net for Mario,etc. I used to get sound files from the latter back in the day. Now it's all either dead or only certain 'My favorite' topics allowed.
I know you're not talking about reddit.
I'm telling you that it's the same people and the same modus operandi between reddit and individual forums.
I thought individual forums would have a better flavor being they don't have to answer 2 Reddit's call.
Nope.
They make their own version of rule 2.
Remember, it's all the same people and companies running these things.
You mean they deleted boot.ini, rolled an update that corrupted their updater, and pushed a cosmetic feature that literally melted GPUs?
welp, I left Zelda Informer due to posting leftist cringe along with them gaslighting about Operation Moonfall and now both my refuges were subverted
What is Operation Moonfall? Is it a CIA thing from the 60s?
It was a fan project in the likes of operation rainfall, meant to get Nintendo to release Majora's mask on the 3ds after ocarina of time got released on it
So why would you leave a fan project? Sounds like you had something good going there and Nintendo did release Majoras Mask 3DS which fixed some glaring issues like allowing travel by hour which is VERY handy for certain side quests! They moved the stone mask to a more sensible location.
no what happened was they repeatedly said it was never going to happen and gave all sorts of bs excuses and when it happened they turned around and said it was always going to happen and gave more bs about how the community had nothing to do with it, that gaslighting was why I left zelda informer, it was a perfect solidification of the woke's hatred of the community that was passionate of the series, but without being fully identified before gamergate happened
Only one I still use at all in Game FAQs, probably because the user base in like 39 yo on average, so I find you can talk a bit more, I can even say the Switch is the worst console I've ever owned and not really receive much backlash. But yes the topics do become very stale quickly these days. Shrugs
And it in some cases is compromised.