He ran the only good seasons of nu-Who. Once Moffat got the reins the decline began. Cautiously optimistic is probably the best stance to take, though nu-Who may already be irreparably ruined
Even retconning Timeless Children wouldn't be enough to get me back at this point. Also, I really don't think Davies will do that: he believes in the message. I was never as big a fan of his Who as I was of the older series.
Making the Doctor a young, hot twentysomething instead of the more mature, complex man that he always was before rubbed me the wrong way from the very start. It was done for no reason other than to attract a shallower female audience at the expense of the old fans.
Certainly true but he still had very poor writing at times when the end of season finale would be nothing but a Deus ex machina solving things. He also still has a long history of other woke sperging including Torchwood for a more relevant example where the first season was essentially "Doctor Who but everyone fucks everyone else and we can now say the 'fuck' word".
In October 2005, BBC Three Controller Stuart Murphy invited Davies to create a post-watershed Doctor Who spin-off in the wake of the parent series' popularity. Torchwood—named after an anagrammatic title ruse used to prevent leaks of Doctor Who's first series—incorporated elements from an abandoned Davies project titled Excalibur and featured the pansexual 51st century time-traveler Jack Harkness (John Barrowman) and a team of alien hunters in Cardiff.
Literally every cast member fucks each other at some point and none of them have any redeeming qualities.
See subsequent post regarding Gwen because it caused me to rant about how much I detest the character, who to this is the reason I can't stand hearing the actress who played her including her role in DA2 and whatever else.
The show began production in April 2006 and was marketed through foreshadowing in the main story arc of Doctor Who's second series, which portrayed Torchwood as a covert quasi-governmental organization that monitors, exploits, and suppresses the existence of extraterrestrial life and technology. Upon its transmission, Torchwood was one of BBC Three's most popular shows; however, it received criticism for "adolescent" use of sexual and violent themes. This led the production team to alter the format to be subtler in its portrayal of adult themes.
There was also the more woke series years before that 'Queer as Folk' which he made for the following reason:
Although well received, the series' [The Grand] ratings were not high enough to warrant a third series. After its cancellation in September 1997, Davies had an existential crisis after almost dying from an accidental overdose; the experience persuaded him to detoxify and make a name for himself by producing a series which celebrated his homosexuality.
After his near-death experience, Davies started to develop a series for Channel 4 which reflected the "hedonistic lifestyle" of the gay quarter of Manchester he was leaving behind. Encouraged by ex-Granada executives Catriona MacKenzie and Gub Neil to "go gay", the series focused on a group of friends in Manchester's gay scene, tentatively titled The Other End of the Ballroom, and later, Queer as Fuck.
By February 1998, when he completed the first draft for the series première, the series was known under its eventual title Queer as Folk.[38] The series emulates dramas such as Band of Gold in presenting realistic discussion on sexuality, as opposed to "one-sided" gay characters in soap operas such as EastEnders, and eschews "heavy-handed discussion" of issues such as HIV; the show instead focuses on the party scene on Canal Street.
The window to the world character Gwen literally cheats on her everyday-man fiancé and only tells him it's happened AFTER giving him a memory wiping drug called "retcon" to make herself feel better. The character was a massive cunt without any of the warmth or depth that repeatedly fucked up because of how much of a literal Karen she ended up being, such as when telling Jack he was wrong to not tell a mother her lost son had been found.
Premise of the episode was the Torchwood base is in Cardiff because of a previously mentioned rift in space-time that is brought up in one of the Doctor Who episodes, the one with the farting aliens. The rift periodically shits out monsters and other stuff so Torchwood 3 sets up there as a vanguard. Gwen raises the question of "if stuff is coming out, is stuff also going in?" to which point Jack tells her no/drop the subject.
Keep in mind this is the first season so Gwen has only just joined the team while Jack is from the 51th century as mentioned and also over 100 years old at this point because of plot.
He's lived through all of the 1900s because his attempt to get back from the future after Nu-Who season 1 ends fucks up and lands him near the start of the 20th century by mistake. The existing all-women TW3 team finds him and capture and kill him several times over because "raaaaaa-wamen!"
He lives through WW2 for a second time, since his first appearance was in the Nu-Who episode set then with the gas mask child, and eventually ends up in charge of TW3 because the previous leader has such a mental break on New Year's Day 2000 he commits suicide and murders the entire team at the base after a vision of just how bad shit is going to be so spares both himself and everyone else, however Jack can't die so he gets lumped with dealing with what comes next which eventually leads to him in the show as the leader of TW3.
Jack discovers that his boss has murdered everyone else in the Hub because of his fear of the new millennium and the horrors it may hold
The one who knows more than anyone, who's lived [and died] more than anyone else, who should be the authority figure on pretty much everything that happens because;
TIME TRAVELLER FROM THE 51ST CENTURY!
Has literally lived longer than any other human in the show and therefore has so much experience anyone questioning him should be shot into the sun.
Anyway, Gwen being the stronk and indescrimant Karen she is ignores him and investigates for herself. Finds out stuff does get taken sometimes, albeit rarely. Works out the missing son was such a case and throughout the episode works out where he is. In an isolated facility. That Jack actually operates.
Gwen of course takes the huffy child approach to this revelation and again ignores Jack telling her again to BTFO, instead deciding to not only tell the mother the news but also bring her to see her son.
There are just a few problems here.
The son has been missing for 6 months according to the mother.
Except he's experienced 40 years.
So the teenager is now in his 50s, badly scarred because he fell through a space-time rift into a warzone for 40 years, and literally screams for 20 hours a day due to the horrors he's seen. But Gwen decides to bring the mother to him anyway. So he starts screaming in her face. Yay!
Gwen brings Nikki, Jonah's mother, in to see him under the supervision of a facility staff member. At first she is horrified, believing it to be a cruel joke, but Jonah starts telling her things that only he would know. Nikki calms and they hug for a moment, but when Jonah tells the staff member with growing distress that he can feel "it" starting up, she urgently tells Nikki to get away from him. She resists and says that she can take care of him. However Jonah starts screaming, a scream so horrible that everyone flees. Gwen reveals that the scream lasts for 20 hours every day because he looked into the heart of a dark star, which drove him insane.
A week later, Gwen goes to see Nikki, who implores her not to show the island to anyone else. She states that it would have been better for her to have remembered her son as he was, rather than to know of his true fate.
He ran the only good seasons of nu-Who. Once Moffat got the reins the decline began. Cautiously optimistic is probably the best stance to take, though nu-Who may already be irreparably ruined
Even retconning Timeless Children wouldn't be enough to get me back at this point. Also, I really don't think Davies will do that: he believes in the message. I was never as big a fan of his Who as I was of the older series. Making the Doctor a young, hot twentysomething instead of the more mature, complex man that he always was before rubbed me the wrong way from the very start. It was done for no reason other than to attract a shallower female audience at the expense of the old fans.
Certainly true but he still had very poor writing at times when the end of season finale would be nothing but a Deus ex machina solving things. He also still has a long history of other woke sperging including Torchwood for a more relevant example where the first season was essentially "Doctor Who but everyone fucks everyone else and we can now say the 'fuck' word".
Literally every cast member fucks each other at some point and none of them have any redeeming qualities.
See subsequent post regarding Gwen because it caused me to rant about how much I detest the character, who to this is the reason I can't stand hearing the actress who played her including her role in DA2 and whatever else.
There was also the more woke series years before that 'Queer as Folk' which he made for the following reason:
MFW talking about Gwen from Torchwood.
tl;dr
The window to the world character Gwen literally cheats on her everyday-man fiancé and only tells him it's happened AFTER giving him a memory wiping drug called "retcon" to make herself feel better. The character was a massive cunt without any of the warmth or depth that repeatedly fucked up because of how much of a literal Karen she ended up being, such as when telling Jack he was wrong to not tell a mother her lost son had been found.
Premise of the episode was the Torchwood base is in Cardiff because of a previously mentioned rift in space-time that is brought up in one of the Doctor Who episodes, the one with the farting aliens. The rift periodically shits out monsters and other stuff so Torchwood 3 sets up there as a vanguard. Gwen raises the question of "if stuff is coming out, is stuff also going in?" to which point Jack tells her no/drop the subject.
He's lived through all of the 1900s because his attempt to get back from the future after Nu-Who season 1 ends fucks up and lands him near the start of the 20th century by mistake. The existing all-women TW3 team finds him and capture and kill him several times over because "raaaaaa-wamen!"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5571Dmc5FiI
He lives through WW2 for a second time, since his first appearance was in the Nu-Who episode set then with the gas mask child, and eventually ends up in charge of TW3 because the previous leader has such a mental break on New Year's Day 2000 he commits suicide and murders the entire team at the base after a vision of just how bad shit is going to be so spares both himself and everyone else, however Jack can't die so he gets lumped with dealing with what comes next which eventually leads to him in the show as the leader of TW3.
The one who knows more than anyone, who's lived [and died] more than anyone else, who should be the authority figure on pretty much everything that happens because;
TIME TRAVELLER FROM THE 51ST CENTURY!
Has literally lived longer than any other human in the show and therefore has so much experience anyone questioning him should be shot into the sun.
Anyway, Gwen being the stronk and indescrimant Karen she is ignores him and investigates for herself. Finds out stuff does get taken sometimes, albeit rarely. Works out the missing son was such a case and throughout the episode works out where he is. In an isolated facility. That Jack actually operates.
Gwen of course takes the huffy child approach to this revelation and again ignores Jack telling her again to BTFO, instead deciding to not only tell the mother the news but also bring her to see her son.
There are just a few problems here.
The son has been missing for 6 months according to the mother.
Except he's experienced 40 years.
So the teenager is now in his 50s, badly scarred because he fell through a space-time rift into a warzone for 40 years, and literally screams for 20 hours a day due to the horrors he's seen. But Gwen decides to bring the mother to him anyway. So he starts screaming in her face. Yay!
reeeeeeeeeee
Fucking Merrill 🙄 wanted to take wasp nests to my ears every time she spoke in that game.