I have a family member who took the shot to keep his job in Alberta, Canada. He didn't check the box saying he consented, and signed it "UNDER DURESS".
They also didn't give him the provincial fact sheet & vax monograph they're required to do, instead they printed some CDC form about covid. Reminder that the CDC is not a Canadian gov't organization but a foreign one.
He lost his job last year and just got this one recently after months of trying. Be mad at the people preying on desperate people, not those who succumb to intense pressure.
Eh, animal comparisons can be fun and poetic and all that, but it runs a little heavy into the essentialism and sometimes overruns important lessons in human nature.
That there's very little coming back from the extremes that most people would consider evil/tyrannical is true (wolves stay wolves as you say), for some it's so strongly inherent that the born different implication of "wolf" fits, although that's more the serial killer archetype. For the power elites willing to inflict undue suffering on millions at a whim, that's generally as much learned/trained lack of empathy as it is inherent, but humans are terrible at unlearning so there's little hope of them ever rekindling any care for their fellow man, it's far more likely that only being overpowered will stop them hurting others at that point.
The point being that wolves Vs sheep conjures an image of inherent incompatibility that when you look at the individuals in question may be obviously false. When you come face to face with them it's important to be sure in advance of your convictions that even though they're actually the kind of person that in a different world with a different past could have been a good friend, the things they have learned and done have made them incompatible and there's almost no going back now.
Because they sure as shit already think you're beneath humane consideration and won't hesitate to do what needs to be done, they wouldn't be in power if they did.
Believe me, one of my goals in life now is to live long enough to see those responsible for what is happening right now suffer for what they're doing.
However now more than ever is the time to decide what one's goals are, and to act with purpose toward those goals. We cannot afford to make very many superfluous moves. What's done is done for your friend for this battle, but there will be many more battles to fight.
If your primary goal is to not be injected, and you don't really care about making a political statement (or you aren't in a position to make one), then probably the simplest option is to simply bribe the nurse giving the injections to shoot it into the garbage can and sign the form saying you got one. Or the HR lady who checks the "passport" and checks your employer's form saying you got one. Or forge the "passport" itself.
The corollary to what I just said above is perhaps your friend in the future will be in a position where he can help a fellow traveler as stated above, and perhaps he can consider how he might make that fellow travel's journey a bit easier than his own was, so to speak.
However one should probably not assume this strategy will work long-term, and if someone goes that route they should probably treat it as a short-term solution to the longer term problem and use the time it buys them to find a longer-term solution.
Doing what your friend did was never going to be anything but be a political statement, the outcome of which was a loss either way it was likely to turn out.
I feel bad for people who are having to make these decisions, and I don't know any way to say this without it sounding callous, but I don't understand what is served by doing that. They either inject you or they don't. If they don't inject you because you didn't sign the form or because they perceive you don't consent to the medical treatment, you still lose your job if it requires an injection. If they do inject you, then that's also a loss condition if your goal was to leave without being injected.
At best, this is evidence for the lawsuit or human rights tribunal. But that doesn't un-inject you.
The way to avoid getting injected is to avoid going to the place where they inject people, standing in the line marked "wait here to be injected", and sitting there while they put the needle in your arm.
Kind of dangerous for the minions doling out the shots to these soldiers. Trained to kill and now they're giving them the motivation if there are dire side effects.
Just because they make the decision extremely hard doesn't mean you aren't still consenting to it. This is a gay LARP to make himself feel better. Until someone holds you down and uses force, you are giving consent. You want whatever they are threatening to take away more than you want bodily autonomy. It's that simple.
You want whatever they are threatening to take away more than you want bodily autonomy.
Until someone holds you down and uses force, you are giving consent.
Fuck right off. By this logic, a strict vaccine mandate where you get thrown in prison if you are not vaccinated would still produce a population who "consented" to being vaccinated. So long as they don't physically force the needle in your arm, they can do whatever they want. Hell, by this logic, holding you at literal gun point and saying "agree to take the shot or die" still counts as consent as long as the man doesn't hold you down and force the needle in your arm.
The government punishing people who do not comply, whether that be a fine, losing your home, losing your job, being thrown in jail, or being killed, does not jive with the concept of consent.
Yes, people throughout history have repeatedly died to defend liberty, freedom and morals. If you aren't ready to lose everything to oppose evil, you are just a LARPing queer. Cope harder
Freedom requires sacrifice. Giving into a threat even though you really super duper don't want to is compliance. You want what they offer more than you want bodily autonomy.
Just like the actors and actresses who sucked dick to get a role.
Whether it's "compliance" or not doesn't make it "consent" in any real usage of the word.
Consenting under duress is not consent at all.
No, I don't want what they offer, I don't want them to take away what I already have. The government didn't "offer" me my freedom. But they are able to take it away.
Consent occurs when one person voluntarily agrees to the proposal or desires of another. If you take an experimental gene therapy product to keep your job, that is absolutely voluntary. That is their offer; consent to maintain your current lifestyle or be inconvenienced and find a new job. You are choosing comfort and safety over maintaining your own bodily autonomy. If your boss said suck my dick or you're fired; I hope you make it clear you are under duress while you fondle his balls.
You don't have or deserve any freedoms you aren't willing to make a sacrifice for. I get it, it's an extremely difficult choice. But if all you are going to bring to the table is "I'm under duress but I'll comply!", just stay out of the fight completely. It's just useless virtue signaling in a time where serious action is the only remedy.
Talking specifically about this video, it's more a demonstration that highlights that these nurses are not following their code of ethics than anything else.
Talking about your weird standard of consent, again, by your logic, a threat of imprisonment or death would also constitute consent. It doesn't.
I know, I know. But it’s true. They’ve well and truly proved that by now. They don’t give a flying f about “ethics”, the “hyppocratic oath” (hypocritical oaf) or the constitution of the country, state or in this case province…
They’re winning the culture war, and that’s all they care about.
Something something, “Never forget these people want you dead…”, etc.
Remember all that shit about sex trafficking and hiding a fork in your underwear or some shit.
Meanwhile 2021 and you literally hold a sign up and they ignore it. The dumb thing is that they could have fucked him over and not given it to him while he was holding the sign. This only works because he knew they'd do it.
Also to be fair I had to double check the spelling, but please don't mis spell shit if you're going to do this. Unless you're deliberately doing it so people will share it to laugh at you, it just makes you look like a dumbass.
It's livelihood. A "lively hood" is a charitable description of where one might live in downtown chicago.
I have a family member who took the shot to keep his job in Alberta, Canada. He didn't check the box saying he consented, and signed it "UNDER DURESS".
They also didn't give him the provincial fact sheet & vax monograph they're required to do, instead they printed some CDC form about covid. Reminder that the CDC is not a Canadian gov't organization but a foreign one.
He lost his job last year and just got this one recently after months of trying. Be mad at the people preying on desperate people, not those who succumb to intense pressure.
Eh, animal comparisons can be fun and poetic and all that, but it runs a little heavy into the essentialism and sometimes overruns important lessons in human nature.
That there's very little coming back from the extremes that most people would consider evil/tyrannical is true (wolves stay wolves as you say), for some it's so strongly inherent that the born different implication of "wolf" fits, although that's more the serial killer archetype. For the power elites willing to inflict undue suffering on millions at a whim, that's generally as much learned/trained lack of empathy as it is inherent, but humans are terrible at unlearning so there's little hope of them ever rekindling any care for their fellow man, it's far more likely that only being overpowered will stop them hurting others at that point.
The point being that wolves Vs sheep conjures an image of inherent incompatibility that when you look at the individuals in question may be obviously false. When you come face to face with them it's important to be sure in advance of your convictions that even though they're actually the kind of person that in a different world with a different past could have been a good friend, the things they have learned and done have made them incompatible and there's almost no going back now.
Because they sure as shit already think you're beneath humane consideration and won't hesitate to do what needs to be done, they wouldn't be in power if they did.
The defiant and dissenting are the sheep? Please share more of your wisdom with us.
Tell me how taking experimental gene therapy so you can beg the state to allow you to have a job is either defiant or dissenting.
I haven't done either of those, you retarded ape.
Sure thing faggot. That's why you got offended by the other dude calling you a sheep.
Cope and seethe loser
Believe me, one of my goals in life now is to live long enough to see those responsible for what is happening right now suffer for what they're doing.
However now more than ever is the time to decide what one's goals are, and to act with purpose toward those goals. We cannot afford to make very many superfluous moves. What's done is done for your friend for this battle, but there will be many more battles to fight.
If your primary goal is to not be injected, and you don't really care about making a political statement (or you aren't in a position to make one), then probably the simplest option is to simply bribe the nurse giving the injections to shoot it into the garbage can and sign the form saying you got one. Or the HR lady who checks the "passport" and checks your employer's form saying you got one. Or forge the "passport" itself.
The corollary to what I just said above is perhaps your friend in the future will be in a position where he can help a fellow traveler as stated above, and perhaps he can consider how he might make that fellow travel's journey a bit easier than his own was, so to speak.
However one should probably not assume this strategy will work long-term, and if someone goes that route they should probably treat it as a short-term solution to the longer term problem and use the time it buys them to find a longer-term solution.
Doing what your friend did was never going to be anything but be a political statement, the outcome of which was a loss either way it was likely to turn out.
I feel bad for people who are having to make these decisions, and I don't know any way to say this without it sounding callous, but I don't understand what is served by doing that. They either inject you or they don't. If they don't inject you because you didn't sign the form or because they perceive you don't consent to the medical treatment, you still lose your job if it requires an injection. If they do inject you, then that's also a loss condition if your goal was to leave without being injected.
At best, this is evidence for the lawsuit or human rights tribunal. But that doesn't un-inject you.
The way to avoid getting injected is to avoid going to the place where they inject people, standing in the line marked "wait here to be injected", and sitting there while they put the needle in your arm.
He should hang onto that video. If we're all lucky, it might help him sue the pants off someone one day.
Kind of dangerous for the minions doling out the shots to these soldiers. Trained to kill and now they're giving them the motivation if there are dire side effects.
Just because they make the decision extremely hard doesn't mean you aren't still consenting to it. This is a gay LARP to make himself feel better. Until someone holds you down and uses force, you are giving consent. You want whatever they are threatening to take away more than you want bodily autonomy. It's that simple.
Fuck right off. By this logic, a strict vaccine mandate where you get thrown in prison if you are not vaccinated would still produce a population who "consented" to being vaccinated. So long as they don't physically force the needle in your arm, they can do whatever they want. Hell, by this logic, holding you at literal gun point and saying "agree to take the shot or die" still counts as consent as long as the man doesn't hold you down and force the needle in your arm.
The government punishing people who do not comply, whether that be a fine, losing your home, losing your job, being thrown in jail, or being killed, does not jive with the concept of consent.
Yes, people throughout history have repeatedly died to defend liberty, freedom and morals. If you aren't ready to lose everything to oppose evil, you are just a LARPing queer. Cope harder
And people throughout history have also repeatedly made change without literally dying for it.
Whether you expect people to literally die for their cause or not doesn't change the fact that giving in to a threat is not "consent."
Freedom requires sacrifice. Giving into a threat even though you really super duper don't want to is compliance. You want what they offer more than you want bodily autonomy.
Just like the actors and actresses who sucked dick to get a role.
Whether it's "compliance" or not doesn't make it "consent" in any real usage of the word.
Consenting under duress is not consent at all.
No, I don't want what they offer, I don't want them to take away what I already have. The government didn't "offer" me my freedom. But they are able to take it away.
Consent occurs when one person voluntarily agrees to the proposal or desires of another. If you take an experimental gene therapy product to keep your job, that is absolutely voluntary. That is their offer; consent to maintain your current lifestyle or be inconvenienced and find a new job. You are choosing comfort and safety over maintaining your own bodily autonomy. If your boss said suck my dick or you're fired; I hope you make it clear you are under duress while you fondle his balls.
You don't have or deserve any freedoms you aren't willing to make a sacrifice for. I get it, it's an extremely difficult choice. But if all you are going to bring to the table is "I'm under duress but I'll comply!", just stay out of the fight completely. It's just useless virtue signaling in a time where serious action is the only remedy.
Talking specifically about this video, it's more a demonstration that highlights that these nurses are not following their code of ethics than anything else.
Talking about your weird standard of consent, again, by your logic, a threat of imprisonment or death would also constitute consent. It doesn't.
Friendly reminder that they don’t care…
I know, I know. But it’s true. They’ve well and truly proved that by now. They don’t give a flying f about “ethics”, the “hyppocratic oath” (hypocritical oaf) or the constitution of the country, state or in this case province…
They’re winning the culture war, and that’s all they care about.
Something something, “Never forget these people want you dead…”, etc.
Remember all that shit about sex trafficking and hiding a fork in your underwear or some shit.
Meanwhile 2021 and you literally hold a sign up and they ignore it. The dumb thing is that they could have fucked him over and not given it to him while he was holding the sign. This only works because he knew they'd do it.
Also to be fair I had to double check the spelling, but please don't mis spell shit if you're going to do this. Unless you're deliberately doing it so people will share it to laugh at you, it just makes you look like a dumbass.
It's livelihood. A "lively hood" is a charitable description of where one might live in downtown chicago.
Their comment won't go viral, though.
did this nurse aspirate before injecting? doesn't look like it.
What a fat faggot. Fuck him.