None of the examples you listed are defeatist, at least not in the way that many of us feel understandably demoralized.

All your examples are classic, dillusional turn the other cheek cuckservative lies.

You can feel demoralized by how bad things are while still wanting to fight back.

I'll speak to my opinion about how I think things are going. But these are just my personal thoughts and in no way encompasses the whole of what's taking place — that would take much more writing to lay out completely. Some of it is just things I've written before copy/pasted, so if context seems a bit off, that's why.

Wall of text incoming.

I rarely see anyone who says "don't fight back."
Everyone should fight back; however, they should do it intelligently and not simply based off retarded emotional knee-jerk reactions.
If your idea of "fighting back" is screaming dumb shit, then you're literally not fighting back, you genuinely are playing into their hands. Let's be perfectly real, you're no longer "fighting back" at that point as much as you're simply venting your frustrations and screaming into the ether.

Everyone should know, not only through personal experience but observations as well, that people don't simply change their mind because people scream shit at them. It just doesn't happen. There's also almost no way in hell you're going to convince people to agree with you using that method either.
Why do people think that those who gain such a large following and who have a lot of persuasion are those who can calmly make their points using truth and common sense reasoning?
It's because the things that they say lead people to discover things themselves. They don't tell anyone what to think, they simply point out the truth, remain cool-headed, and allow people to figure things out themselves.
Of course, you can certainly add some passion to the overall messaging as well, since I think that when done sincerely it comes across as genuine and relatable, which is equally important.
People do not respond well to being told what to think. They want to feel like they developed their views on their own. That's why TV/social media/consumer culture propaganda has been so effective in making people abandon common sense and support some of the dumbest shit imaginable.
It's imperative that when thinking of methods that people take into account the human ego as well, which is a much more present than ever before.
Realizing all of this, it's also important to remember that simply advocating online is not a substitute for action taken in real life. People must participate in protesting when they can locally. You cannot be that idiot yelling that everyone else should do shit while you sit back and scream all day on social media.
It's important to show up to demonstrations not only to network and meet new people who share similar views, but to add to the movement so others notice they're not alone and perhaps gain the courage to join themselves. Stop being lazy and get off your ass.
 

We are in a new age. At this very moment we're already engaged in what many wars will look like in the future: a war of information. People on the left are already more than aware of this which is why they're so adamant about censoring views they don't want gaining traction.
The days of using force are done; they're not coming back.
Force only works when you have control of the narrative and what people see and don't see. As of right now, in nearly every facet applicable, the anti-progressive crowd are in a undeniable disadvantage. This is pretty much indisputable.
In order to achieve success, people absolutely must use many of the same methods that their opposition used to gain them that advantage.
Anyone who believes that there's some miracle one-size-fits-all solution where if we just do some big thing we'll achieve what we're looking for is completely insane. What's happening now is a war of attrition.
If we're intent on fighting back then it's imperative that we do it in ways that exceed their expectations and keep them on their toes. We must be smart, calculative, cunning, shrewd, and have solid guiding principles. The meme war of 2016 is a perfect example of that. It completely played to our strengths and caught them so off-guard that we were able to get a man elected President because of it.
Don't underestimate the power of the internet. That's the biggest mistake that conservative-types have done these last several decades and they're paying dearly because of it now, leaving that burden to us to fix.
We must, at all times, play to our strengths.

The methods they're using are all based on dishonesty, propaganda, authoritarianism, and misinformation. There's others as well but I think people get the gist.
I believe that those methods are also completely unsustainable.
To put it quite bluntly: it's a one-way ticket.
As many people most certainly know, once you see how shit really is, there's no going back. It's why the term "red-pill" has been such a fitting description.
It's one of those "once you see it you can't unsee it" type situations. Every day, more and more people are seeing the shocking frequency that the left and their cohorts lie. This has never been more true as with the mandates, vaccines, Biden screwing shit up, and Covid itself. If they were on the fence before, then when they begin to notice who, exactly, the people speaking the truth are now, it's going to make them begin to question a lot more. That's why the truth is such an effective weapon. A lie can only be covered up — you can only create more lies to do that. The truth, however, is the truth — it simply exists as is and is immutable. That's why whenever they can, they try their best to use it but misrepresent it in every conceivable way. Which is also why it's important to know that and call it out for being deceptive.

The truth is a much more effective tool than a lie. As I mentioned before, this is a war of attrition that will take time. It took decades for them to achieve this power, there's no way in hell you're undoing it in a year or two, it's just never going to happen.
That said, the truth is a very powerful weapon and the methods we're currently using are working — and quite well, too. Just because you're not noticing it being showcased in consumer culture or mainstream society, doesn't mean nothing is changing.

During the election we watched a President — who had been the subject of four straight years of witch hunts and smears from every single institution imaginable — gain millions upon millions of votes. More importantly, those are just the ones we know of. If there was some sort of shady shit happening, as many very qualified experts have pointed out with votes being shifted from Trump to Biden, then that number goes up by a staggering amount.

If the methods people are using are so "ineffective," that would not be the case whatsoever — at all.
They are effective, but as mentioned, these things will invariably take time and patience.
It's not a sprint; it's a marathon.
 
Anyway, I could go on and on and break shit down even more, but the point is everyone should fight back. Period. They should never ignore what's taking place and decide to be apathetic while under some retarded delusion that it will somehow just "go away" — because it won't.
But they should do is smart.
In the end, the most important thing people can do is educate themselves. Learn as much as you possibly can about things that you consider important to you. Learn about your opposition, even if you feel you know enough, don't be arrogant. There's always more you can learn.

We're in the age of information warfare. Don't be the retard who's completely unarmed.

The important thing now is to build critical mass and a consciousness that the governments are obsolete and should go away.

Citizens fighting each other over lifestyle BS when there is a tyrant above is pointless and nobody will ever win. "national socialists", "leftists", "hippies" etc are thrown aside after they serve their purpose and a new class of useful idiots appears to serve the same masters.

You wanna fight go on and do so but it will be a never ending circle because you will not fighting the real enemy.

While the right is prone to defeatism, particularly the reactionary right, none of the things you're talking about are that.

"If you are going to go against the left, you're going to be bad as them!"

No one told you this. You were probably told not to engage in political violence, intimidation, or harassment, and you strawmanned it into this.

You can't fight the a war using your enemy's strategy because they are not you. You have different problems, different advantages, different goals, different logistics, and you need different tactics to win. This is true of all wars.

If you fight the enemy's war, you lose. 100% of the time. That's actually how you make your opponent lose: fight on your terms with your rules.

"Ignore them and they'll go away eventually!"

No one has said this here. Literally no one.

"Stop fighting them, you're as bad as them when you do!"

Again, you were probably criticized for how you were fighting back because you think you can win by being right-wing Antifa. But that's wrong.

"Don't fight back if you're white, you're just giving them ammunition about their white supremacist narrative! Stop it!"

Again, nobody said this. You were probably told that White Racial Collectivism is not the answer here, and you strawmanned it into this.

I've said, repeatedly, that the Left are being explicitly anti-white and engaging in pre-genocidal rhetoric. That is self-evident at this point.

Racial Politics is not a solution to that. Racialism is a Progressive doctrine. It is a Leftist system of balkanizing society into controllable political demographics with the use of a Party-Boss system, that they have particularly specialized in for hundreds of years, particularly in large cosmopolitan cities. Socialism relies on creating this political subgroups, and rewarding them with protectionism. If you want to see what it looks like when you promote racialism and ethno-nationalism, look to black urban communities and indian reservations.

If you want rampant degeneracy, sky-rocketing abortions, an out of control welfare state, high criminality, a collapsing birth rate, all while people who look like you destroy your entire society; then embrace Racialism. Every racialist is a race traitor.

There's only one way out of this, it won't happen tho. We are a country of whipped dogs.

What exactly do you mean by “fight back”? Do you mean bend over the desk and thank them for your daily assrape? That’s all I see the christcucks and conservatives doing. In addition, like you, they never have a plan or anything specific and practical that would ever work, ever. Just nebulous bullshit like “fight back, bro!”

Take women’s rights away. Say no to women. Never obey a woman. Practical. Individually actionable. Will produce solutions. You will never do this. You will only bitch like a woman. You will never do anything, ever.

Big ups.

Is this some kind of modern slang? What does it mean? Reference to upvoting?

The Black Pill is a Leftist tactic to demoralise their competition, never take it.