There's no need. You can support the police and still be critical of them.
The police in Melbourne for instance are awful people across the board. The shit I've been watching come out of there is seriously digusting; however, they're not the only police and I'm not going to make vast generalizations because there's a few bad cops.
There's bad people in every group without exception. Bad people simply exist. That should be something that's inherently understood more than something that needs to be explicitly stated.
Blind support of police is folly. Support needs be conditional.
I can only surmise that you support the idea, the concept of police, because no one in Melbourne or Australia more generally should support the police right now.
I never said blind support; don't put words in my mouth.
Of course I support the idea of police. You'd have to be someone who's never lived in a seriously shitty area to not support them. Watch some grade school children getting killed, an old man or woman having their home broken into and getting beaten to death and robbed, gangs recruiting kids to sell drugs and beating the shit out of them for refusing, the pain and suffering overall of living in an area completely dominated by crime, and you'd naturally support the idea.
Police are not a monolith. No group is a monolith. You can support a group and still outright condemn the worst parts of it. The two are not mutually exclusive.
This retarded all or nothing, binary, black and white, worldview that people have adopted the last 10 years or so is completely retarded.
Nuance exists. The world is not black and white but takes place everywhere in between.
Did I or did I not say that in Melbourne they're awful people across the board? Did you even bother reading what I wrote?
It doesn't say ALL police, and implies only the GOOD ones. Not much different then when BLM says that it means "Black Lives Matter too". They go on about how you should have to say that. Thus "Police lives matter" means "GOOD police lives matter." you shouldn't have to say that.
I'd put some caveats on that one, personally.
There's no need. You can support the police and still be critical of them.
The police in Melbourne for instance are awful people across the board. The shit I've been watching come out of there is seriously digusting; however, they're not the only police and I'm not going to make vast generalizations because there's a few bad cops.
There's bad people in every group without exception. Bad people simply exist. That should be something that's inherently understood more than something that needs to be explicitly stated.
The cops are under the control of the politicians, that is were the blame properly lies.
Blind support of police is folly. Support needs be conditional.
I can only surmise that you support the idea, the concept of police, because no one in Melbourne or Australia more generally should support the police right now.
I never said blind support; don't put words in my mouth.
Of course I support the idea of police. You'd have to be someone who's never lived in a seriously shitty area to not support them. Watch some grade school children getting killed, an old man or woman having their home broken into and getting beaten to death and robbed, gangs recruiting kids to sell drugs and beating the shit out of them for refusing, the pain and suffering overall of living in an area completely dominated by crime, and you'd naturally support the idea.
Police are not a monolith. No group is a monolith. You can support a group and still outright condemn the worst parts of it. The two are not mutually exclusive.
This retarded all or nothing, binary, black and white, worldview that people have adopted the last 10 years or so is completely retarded.
Nuance exists. The world is not black and white but takes place everywhere in between.
Did I or did I not say that in Melbourne they're awful people across the board? Did you even bother reading what I wrote?
Supporting the police is a distinct position from supporting the concept of police.
Don't conflate the two.
Supporting the police when they are carrying out evil is immoral.
The police who are worth supporting are the minority in the current era. They are the exception rather than the rule.
It doesn't say ALL police, and implies only the GOOD ones. Not much different then when BLM says that it means "Black Lives Matter too". They go on about how you should have to say that. Thus "Police lives matter" means "GOOD police lives matter." you shouldn't have to say that.