I guess since I know the picture for the video is Mozart and I couldn't pick out a Cardi B photo if you hit me over the head with it, I must be a racist or whatever. I don't care I will continue to like old white men's music from the 1800s over whores screaming porn at me with a beat in the background.
I have that sort of reputation. An acquaintance of mine decided to test me. She showed me a magazine with Cardi B on it and asked, "Who is that?" I promptly replied, "Cardi B." Puzzled, she asked me how I knew that. I answered, "Easy, her name is on the cover!"
I feel like the grumpy old man now, but I don't understand the popular music today at all. Even the crap I hated as a teenager years ago had some musical quality to it.
String instruments in the approximate form of the modern guitar have existed for over 3 millennia.
music notation
No.
Dozens cultures came up with this on their own, independently. The Babylonians (Iraq) did it first.
That aside, the video is still fucking stupid in its assertion that this is 'white supremacy' - it would have been much more accurate to have simply said 'music theory teachers are basically fucking grifters trying to apply their theory to every new style of music in order to keep their jobs and never have to retrain when anything new comes along'
It's not 'white supremacy', it's a fucking grift, simple as that.
All that's happening with these guys is that they're moving their grift is moving from pretending you're teaching something other than classical music, to teaching cultural marxism. It's basically the new group of grifters attacking the old group of grifters!
This video is actually really infuriating me because it's not wrong in its observation of how utterly static the official, mainstream, academically taught 'music theory' is in the west, but this whole 'racism' and 'whiteness' schtick they're layering over it is just such. fucking. bullshit. And fucking offensive, too because it implies everyone who isn't German, isn't white.
So should Western students not learn the basics of Western music theory? Should they learn Babylonian notation instead?
This also smacks of cultural relativism. 12 tone equal temperament was a great scientific and musical achievement. Other music systems have no mathematical backing. Some sound objectively worse.
This is a real quote from some African guy on that page that got a heart from Neely:
In Uganda we don't really have a word equivalent to "music". Rather music is defined by how one dances to it. Studying it therefore invariably means studying the dances.
So should western students not learn the basics of Western music theory?
Well... that's the thing.
It's not the basics of Western music theory any more. It hasn't been since the 1930's, if not earlier. Arguably, it never was, unless 'western' means 'German'
Almost no western music is produced in that style these days other than orchestral film scores, and even those largely went out of style 20 years ago. Those articles saying '<insert pop song> is a success because it follows music theory!' are cherry picked bollocks.
It's not a theory useful for rock, metal, industrial, electronic, trance, dubstep, irish folk, english folk, britpop, country, or any other of the litany of western musical styles that of moved in and out of fashion over the past 50 years.
I've got no problem with people learning it - particularly if they want to compose something classical and orchestral, which almost nobody does these days, and even fewer make any money doing, but that doesn't change the fact that for most composers alive today, most of it's archaic and few want to listen to it, meaning that at it the end of the day, knowing it is about as useful as a social studies degree.
From what I could tell from my quickly looking it up earlier, the first actual guitar with actual frets was in spain. Before that around the world there was every type of stringed instrument, some close to guitars, but not quite. I accept what you're saying as more correct though.
This is a real quote from some African guy on that page that got a heart from the cultural relativist uploader:
In Uganda we don't really have a word equivalent to "music". Rather music is defined by how one dances to it. Studying it therefore invariably means studying the dances.
Someone please tell me they believe these cultures are equal.
I guess since I know the picture for the video is Mozart and I couldn't pick out a Cardi B photo if you hit me over the head with it, I must be a racist or whatever. I don't care I will continue to like old white men's music from the 1800s over whores screaming porn at me with a beat in the background.
I have that sort of reputation. An acquaintance of mine decided to test me. She showed me a magazine with Cardi B on it and asked, "Who is that?" I promptly replied, "Cardi B." Puzzled, she asked me how I knew that. I answered, "Easy, her name is on the cover!"
LOOLLL
I feel like the grumpy old man now, but I don't understand the popular music today at all. Even the crap I hated as a teenager years ago had some musical quality to it.
"whores screaming porn at me" describes all of democracy
"b-b-but why we gotta learn about the mayo monkeys???"
No.
String instruments in the approximate form of the modern guitar have existed for over 3 millennia.
No.
Dozens cultures came up with this on their own, independently. The Babylonians (Iraq) did it first.
That aside, the video is still fucking stupid in its assertion that this is 'white supremacy' - it would have been much more accurate to have simply said 'music theory teachers are basically fucking grifters trying to apply their theory to every new style of music in order to keep their jobs and never have to retrain when anything new comes along'
It's not 'white supremacy', it's a fucking grift, simple as that.
All that's happening with these guys is that they're moving their grift is moving from pretending you're teaching something other than classical music, to teaching cultural marxism. It's basically the new group of grifters attacking the old group of grifters!
This video is actually really infuriating me because it's not wrong in its observation of how utterly static the official, mainstream, academically taught 'music theory' is in the west, but this whole 'racism' and 'whiteness' schtick they're layering over it is just such. fucking. bullshit. And fucking offensive, too because it implies everyone who isn't German, isn't white.
So should Western students not learn the basics of Western music theory? Should they learn Babylonian notation instead?
This also smacks of cultural relativism. 12 tone equal temperament was a great scientific and musical achievement. Other music systems have no mathematical backing. Some sound objectively worse.
This is a real quote from some African guy on that page that got a heart from Neely:
Doesn't that just say it all?
Sound objectively worse... to us.
Not to everyone.
Each culture needs its own traditions. But, this requires they separate.
Well... that's the thing.
It's not the basics of Western music theory any more. It hasn't been since the 1930's, if not earlier. Arguably, it never was, unless 'western' means 'German'
Almost no western music is produced in that style these days other than orchestral film scores, and even those largely went out of style 20 years ago. Those articles saying '<insert pop song> is a success because it follows music theory!' are cherry picked bollocks.
It's not a theory useful for rock, metal, industrial, electronic, trance, dubstep, irish folk, english folk, britpop, country, or any other of the litany of western musical styles that of moved in and out of fashion over the past 50 years.
I've got no problem with people learning it - particularly if they want to compose something classical and orchestral, which almost nobody does these days, and even fewer make any money doing, but that doesn't change the fact that for most composers alive today, most of it's archaic and few want to listen to it, meaning that at it the end of the day, knowing it is about as useful as a social studies degree.
From what I could tell from my quickly looking it up earlier, the first actual guitar with actual frets was in spain. Before that around the world there was every type of stringed instrument, some close to guitars, but not quite. I accept what you're saying as more correct though.
Don't do Klingons dirty like that. They were able to establish a nation, create culture, and can generally be civil. They're nothing like Orcs.
The notion that the Klingon race would have ever been able to leave their shitty rock with their shitty culture is laughable.
Yes music theory is racist. Non-whites should therefore stop creating or listening to music.
This has nothing to do with how much I hate mumble rap.
This is a real quote from some African guy on that page that got a heart from the cultural relativist uploader:
Someone please tell me they believe these cultures are equal.
"Equality" is bullshit in every form.
They don't have to be "equal" cultures. Each one just needs its own space.
Reddit: Beethoven, Mozart and everybody else were black, not white!
You should leave that dunghill at the earliest possible moment.
Never go on reddit, don't give them clicks etc.
you live in our civilization. your respect and gratitude are not optional.
These people are so ignorant that they prove that democracy will never work.
We're going to have to exile them to Venezuela.
I agree. Leftists need another nation where they can spend their own time, energy, and money to implement their Utopian dreams.
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