If you need pretty solid proof that women have it easier than men in most regards, it's actually pretty easy to find.
Surprisingly, all you have to do is visit a FtM transition forum. Because FtM pass so well as real men in most cases, they get a pretty authentic experience. It's pretty hilarious and a bit depressing to see the shock that so many of them go through when they realize that life as a dude is exponentially harder — particularly if you're someone who transitioned and essentially became an effeminate "manlet."
Most of them don't know how to cope with it all. They tell stories about how they're isolated, unable to talk to any woman without feeling like a creep, people no longer approach them to talk, feel fearful around kids, how competitive things can be in a full meritocracy, get a very real grasp of how modern women treat men — basically everything that's become pretty standard in 2021. One thing they say they are surprised by is how men seem pretty much the same as when they were women. They don't treat them differently and still have a camaraderie with them. Many thought that they would have acted significantly different when women weren't around, or that all they would talk about would be women. They came to learn that men are much more caring than they thought and enjoy talking about a broad spectrum of things.
What makes it sad is that much of their decision was likely made because of feminist propaganda; same as much of those preconceived ideas they had about men as well. The silly belief that men get a free ride and that everything just sort of works out for them is something that feminist have used for a long time.
I honestly feel sympathy because in those posts, they weren't telling happy stories. As a man looking in, it's easy to be cynical and take a "told you so" attitude, but most of those types of posts where they're explaining about how they learned these things are borderline suicidal because they feel lost and don't know how to handle what's actually become a very real problem for so many young men as well these days.
The big difference being that for men it's just how it's always been; they don't know a different life. While for these FtM's, they don't know how to handle rejection, or the anxiety of having to measure each move in a social situation. They're not used to being the one expected to do certain things, and when all of these things and more come together, they break down in tears unable to figure out a solution.
Like I said, it's honestly pretty sad.
Unfortunately, there's not really any real solution.
These grievance industries will never go away. There's far too many people making far too much money. As long as people have insecurities that can be preyed upon, they'll continue to move the goalposts and continue to search for ways to fuel their fake fights against bogeymen they create.
There's countless organizations out there now that are part of the "grievance industry." With new ones popping up all the time — like BLM did a few years ago. Unless people stop funding them, this crap more assuredly never ends.
Who gives a shit if women, on average, have it better than men do, on average? Do you expect the outcomes to be exactly the same? If so, how is that not just another form of Marxism??
When the hell did I say any of that?
Did you even bother reading the article and the actual topic at hand?
It's commentary on the very real societal belief that's been promulgated the last 6 or 7 years that men somehow have it easier. That belief is actually having serious detrimental consequences on young men, who for the first time are falling behind in almost every metric. It's not to promote that "men have it harder," but to dismiss the very common belief that they have it easier. Hence, why I empathized with the women I was speaking of, because they're victims of that belief as well.
Stop making up imaginary versions of people in your head just so you can argue on the internet. Go outside if you have nothing better to do.
Believe you me, I'd love nothing more than to just ignore the morons and normies that make up "society." Unfortunately, no man is an island, and what "society" decides has very real impacts on me and my daily life.
Not an argument. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Only a child who thinks edgy nihilism is cool would think such a thing.
But it's a cute deflection.
Stop projecting, goof.
Just because you like to play make-believe in your head and conjure imaginary versions of others so you can fight on the internet doesn't make them reality.
You seem wildly insecure. lol
Do you expect the outcomes to be exactly the same?
That was my question. If the answer is "yes" then that is, by definition, Marxism.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Also, I never said that I agree that women are more "privileged" than men (another commie word). I do not. I am not a Marxist. I am an individualist, not a collectivist like you and other Stormfags and the commies. You are all different sides of the same worthless coin. A coin minted by the rich and powerful to keep the rest of us fighting each other instead of them. Just take your vaccine and scream at "the other" while the 1% rape our countries blind. You are a fool.
I would expect them to at least be similar. The margin between the two is insanely large and cannot be explained by mere individual outliers.
Actually, "privilege" is a feminist thing. Invented by Peggy McIntosh in the paper "Knapsack of Privilege" (I think I got the first name right...)
just take your vaccine
You mean the one a female CDC director says will save you, after a female FDA chief allowed it full approval so that major companies listed on the female-led NASDAQ can mandate you take it despite the documented harm to young men?
LOL I'm not taking the vax because of multiple different, demonstrable reasons. Not because one of the people pushing it is a women. That's fucking dumb and childish.
You know that around 50% of all humans are women, right? So half the time, you can show "proof" of your silly conspiracy theories.
Women have everything in their favor: quotas, diversity hires, lower quality standards, special programs for woman only... So a women that doesn't have a family and children, has every time in the world to climb this rigged system.
I think one of the arguments they had was that childbearing and raising children makes women fall behind in their careers. This makes sense and a lot of men went with it, those of us with wives are very sympathetic to the sacrifices our wives make for the good of the family.
So what happens when women no longer have kids? Well they still enjoy the same preferable treatment without any career break.
Childless women had the highest net worth, at $173,800, followed by biological fathers at $161,200, while the median net worth for everyone over age 55 was $133,500, the report said.
The discrepancy is real but you see it is only a problem if males or whites get ahead.
Was it not in Sweden that dropped their collage application quota of 50/50 male/female the moment when males started to benefit from it?
That being said I'm still a bit surprised that childless women have higer net worth then childless men, what is up with that? We are talking about 55+ so the quota and upfront discrimination should not be that high in this age group.
More then that this will lead to a huge discrepancy in the next generations. We are overcompensating by a ton already.
There's also a couple starting with I, but if you don't feel like waiting for an accident or natural causes to take care of it, the word starting with M and ending in R takes care of that.
You can make whatever assumptions you want. Why on earth would I care about what feminist sympathizers think?
You're right, maybe I was a bit uncharitable, although it depends which of the two classes of people I think you are is the correct answer.
Maybe it's "the house your husband bought which you will inevitably steal in a unempathetic and protracted divorce battle where you will accuse him of being a serial toddler rapist for an extra $10 a month."
Doesn't it make sense though? The childless women, a small minority, though growing, would be those who put their careers first and then it was too late, too bad, so sad. Where as the males who were childless already had low earning potential and couldn't "woo" a mate? Why biological fathers would be lower though, well, you'd be adding in the majority of the male population, including low earners to the average. Yes, men are being discriminated against in Western society, but I can see why the numbers might be as they are without necessarily pointing to said discrimination. I'm sure many women in higher positions are overpaid, or in make work jobs, or diversity hires. but I think they're really just comparing a bunch of sad outliers to the bulk of humanity and it's not quite as egregious, here, as it sounds.
I wonder how many childless older men gave away notable portions of their wealth to women over the years, either by way of divorce or just dating/whoring?
Not only are you mad at women for not paying you any attention, but you're also mad at them because they are more successful than you and all the other MGTOW incels??
Ok, so instead of turning off your computer and going out into the world to better yourself, you cry about it on this website? Daily. Without fail. Like an obsession.
What a fag. What a weak ass little bitch and a cucked Momma's boy. Do you miss her tit that much?
His fears is not as irrational as you may think. He goes overboard towards paranoia but not as much as one may think looking at his answers. He can justify a lot of his positions and surprisingly has a good relationship with the women in his life.
It bothers me that I know that.
The fact is there is an ingroup bias for women, women favor women and strangely enough men favor women but at a lower rate then the ingroup bias. Is the women are wonderful thing. Is not about merit but a women with equal result or even less then a men is going to be favored in the workplace.
This are facts that contribute to a difference that you may agree or not to be unfair.
So is not about Marxism but is a reason against Marxism to eliminate the bias and have merit as the main reason for financial success.
If you need pretty solid proof that women have it easier than men in most regards, it's actually pretty easy to find.
Surprisingly, all you have to do is visit a FtM transition forum. Because FtM pass so well as real men in most cases, they get a pretty authentic experience. It's pretty hilarious and a bit depressing to see the shock that so many of them go through when they realize that life as a dude is exponentially harder — particularly if you're someone who transitioned and essentially became an effeminate "manlet."
Most of them don't know how to cope with it all. They tell stories about how they're isolated, unable to talk to any woman without feeling like a creep, people no longer approach them to talk, feel fearful around kids, how competitive things can be in a full meritocracy, get a very real grasp of how modern women treat men — basically everything that's become pretty standard in 2021. One thing they say they are surprised by is how men seem pretty much the same as when they were women. They don't treat them differently and still have a camaraderie with them. Many thought that they would have acted significantly different when women weren't around, or that all they would talk about would be women. They came to learn that men are much more caring than they thought and enjoy talking about a broad spectrum of things.
What makes it sad is that much of their decision was likely made because of feminist propaganda; same as much of those preconceived ideas they had about men as well. The silly belief that men get a free ride and that everything just sort of works out for them is something that feminist have used for a long time.
I honestly feel sympathy because in those posts, they weren't telling happy stories. As a man looking in, it's easy to be cynical and take a "told you so" attitude, but most of those types of posts where they're explaining about how they learned these things are borderline suicidal because they feel lost and don't know how to handle what's actually become a very real problem for so many young men as well these days.
The big difference being that for men it's just how it's always been; they don't know a different life. While for these FtM's, they don't know how to handle rejection, or the anxiety of having to measure each move in a social situation. They're not used to being the one expected to do certain things, and when all of these things and more come together, they break down in tears unable to figure out a solution.
Like I said, it's honestly pretty sad.
Unfortunately, there's not really any real solution.
These grievance industries will never go away. There's far too many people making far too much money. As long as people have insecurities that can be preyed upon, they'll continue to move the goalposts and continue to search for ways to fuel their fake fights against bogeymen they create.
There's countless organizations out there now that are part of the "grievance industry." With new ones popping up all the time — like BLM did a few years ago. Unless people stop funding them, this crap more assuredly never ends.
Who gives a shit if women, on average, have it better than men do, on average? Do you expect the outcomes to be exactly the same? If so, how is that not just another form of Marxism??
When the hell did I say any of that?
Did you even bother reading the article and the actual topic at hand?
It's commentary on the very real societal belief that's been promulgated the last 6 or 7 years that men somehow have it easier. That belief is actually having serious detrimental consequences on young men, who for the first time are falling behind in almost every metric. It's not to promote that "men have it harder," but to dismiss the very common belief that they have it easier. Hence, why I empathized with the women I was speaking of, because they're victims of that belief as well.
Stop making up imaginary versions of people in your head just so you can argue on the internet. Go outside if you have nothing better to do.
Only fags care about what "society" thinks. Stand on your own. Think for yourself.
Believe you me, I'd love nothing more than to just ignore the morons and normies that make up "society." Unfortunately, no man is an island, and what "society" decides has very real impacts on me and my daily life.
Only because you allow it to do so.
Not an argument. The two aren't mutually exclusive. Only a child who thinks edgy nihilism is cool would think such a thing.
But it's a cute deflection.
Grow a pair. Stop caring about what other people think. Pussy.
Stop projecting, goof.
Just because you like to play make-believe in your head and conjure imaginary versions of others so you can fight on the internet doesn't make them reality.
You seem wildly insecure. lol
Awe, does someone not have a pair of balls and/or a spine? Sorry I made you upset by demonstrating it. Go have a cry now.
Only fags spend any amount of time worrying about what other people think. Grow up. High school ends. Time to be an adult.
You are 100% incorrect and simply coping.
Seethe on, tranny.
Let women have privileges to own the communists.
God, that's a worse spin than they did to get the 19th passed.
Not what I said. But please keep arguing with that straw man. It's funny.
It literally was. You're saying that if you don't accept women doing better, you're a Marxist.
Not too bright, huh?
That was my question. If the answer is "yes" then that is, by definition, Marxism.
Why is this so hard for you to understand?
Also, I never said that I agree that women are more "privileged" than men (another commie word). I do not. I am not a Marxist. I am an individualist, not a collectivist like you and other Stormfags and the commies. You are all different sides of the same worthless coin. A coin minted by the rich and powerful to keep the rest of us fighting each other instead of them. Just take your vaccine and scream at "the other" while the 1% rape our countries blind. You are a fool.
Wake the fuck up.
I would expect them to at least be similar. The margin between the two is insanely large and cannot be explained by mere individual outliers.
Actually, "privilege" is a feminist thing. Invented by Peggy McIntosh in the paper "Knapsack of Privilege" (I think I got the first name right...)
You mean the one a female CDC director says will save you, after a female FDA chief allowed it full approval so that major companies listed on the female-led NASDAQ can mandate you take it despite the documented harm to young men?
LOL I'm not taking the vax because of multiple different, demonstrable reasons. Not because one of the people pushing it is a women. That's fucking dumb and childish.
You know that around 50% of all humans are women, right? So half the time, you can show "proof" of your silly conspiracy theories.
This is about as pathetic as it gets, dude.
Women have everything in their favor: quotas, diversity hires, lower quality standards, special programs for woman only... So a women that doesn't have a family and children, has every time in the world to climb this rigged system.
I think one of the arguments they had was that childbearing and raising children makes women fall behind in their careers. This makes sense and a lot of men went with it, those of us with wives are very sympathetic to the sacrifices our wives make for the good of the family.
So what happens when women no longer have kids? Well they still enjoy the same preferable treatment without any career break.
Childless women had the highest net worth, at $173,800, followed by biological fathers at $161,200, while the median net worth for everyone over age 55 was $133,500, the report said.
The discrepancy is real but you see it is only a problem if males or whites get ahead.
Was it not in Sweden that dropped their collage application quota of 50/50 male/female the moment when males started to benefit from it?
That being said I'm still a bit surprised that childless women have higer net worth then childless men, what is up with that? We are talking about 55+ so the quota and upfront discrimination should not be that high in this age group. More then that this will lead to a huge discrepancy in the next generations. We are overcompensating by a ton already.
I hate current times.
It's a word beginning with D and ending with e.
There's also a couple starting with I, but if you don't feel like waiting for an accident or natural causes to take care of it, the word starting with M and ending in R takes care of that.
Décolletage?
Decoupage?
Damnable?
I want to know!
That's depressingly low.
LOL Cry some more on the internet instead of bettering yourself. That'll help!
thinking that "bettering yourself" is at all a counter to female privilege
Spoken like a true member of the perennially oppressed totally not ruling class.
Awe, you've got excuses for being a loser.... that's cute.
Who said I'm a loser? I could probably buy the crappy apartment you're living in from under you.
It's just a fact that they get to advance faster and easier than men do. Women fall upwards.
"Don't make assumptions abut me!!! REEEEE!!!!"
proceeds to make assumptions about others...
You can make whatever assumptions you want. Why on earth would I care about what feminist sympathizers think?
You're right, maybe I was a bit uncharitable, although it depends which of the two classes of people I think you are is the correct answer.
Maybe it's "the house your husband bought which you will inevitably steal in a unempathetic and protracted divorce battle where you will accuse him of being a serial toddler rapist for an extra $10 a month."
Yeah, none of that makes any fucking sense to me. But please, keep on mindlessly rambling. It's good stuff.
Yep.. We have a local widow that has buried three husbands, and she is not ‘black’.
Doesn't it make sense though? The childless women, a small minority, though growing, would be those who put their careers first and then it was too late, too bad, so sad. Where as the males who were childless already had low earning potential and couldn't "woo" a mate? Why biological fathers would be lower though, well, you'd be adding in the majority of the male population, including low earners to the average. Yes, men are being discriminated against in Western society, but I can see why the numbers might be as they are without necessarily pointing to said discrimination. I'm sure many women in higher positions are overpaid, or in make work jobs, or diversity hires. but I think they're really just comparing a bunch of sad outliers to the bulk of humanity and it's not quite as egregious, here, as it sounds.
I wonder how many childless older men gave away notable portions of their wealth to women over the years, either by way of divorce or just dating/whoring?
Not only are you mad at women for not paying you any attention, but you're also mad at them because they are more successful than you and all the other MGTOW incels??
Ok, so instead of turning off your computer and going out into the world to better yourself, you cry about it on this website? Daily. Without fail. Like an obsession.
What a fag. What a weak ass little bitch and a cucked Momma's boy. Do you miss her tit that much?
Stormfag.
Return to c/ConsumeProduct.
I don't take orders from incels.... or anyone else for that matter.
Except for your female betters, clearly.
Why do you think that females are better or worse than men?
Do you also think Aryans are superior to Jews?
Because they have been scientifically proven to be afflicted with a strong in-group bias.
No, that's u/AzureAceStarburstx
I see no difference between your irrational hatred and that of the Stormfags.
Someday you'll get it. I'm not here to convince you that you're a moron. You have to figure that out for yourself.
His fears is not as irrational as you may think. He goes overboard towards paranoia but not as much as one may think looking at his answers. He can justify a lot of his positions and surprisingly has a good relationship with the women in his life. It bothers me that I know that.
The fact is there is an ingroup bias for women, women favor women and strangely enough men favor women but at a lower rate then the ingroup bias. Is the women are wonderful thing. Is not about merit but a women with equal result or even less then a men is going to be favored in the workplace.
This are facts that contribute to a difference that you may agree or not to be unfair.
So is not about Marxism but is a reason against Marxism to eliminate the bias and have merit as the main reason for financial success.