It still makes no sense whatsoever that WTC7 was completely destroyed.
Conveniently enough, the Enron investigation was taking place in one of the towers as well.
Don't take the video as gospel, but consider the information available in it, as well as the information available elsewhere, and form your own views.
I think one of the more important aspects of 9/11 that never gets talked about is the "dancing Israelis."
Watch this video to get up to speed on them: https://youtu.be/xv5s_VEmZd0
People should learn their history. While Israel may be considered an "ally," they have a very questionable history with the US. In fact, much of their behavior is not the behavior one would expect from a country that we're allied with.
Here's a quick infographic that gives a pretty quick snapshot of some of the history between the US and Israel.
There's a lot that we're never even taught in schools, which is truly baffling. I suggest everyone look into things further if you enjoy history.
What's really messed up is that any time someone tries to bring attention to these things, they're immediately labeled as an "anti-semite."
Using that as a deflection is nothing more than trying to shut down what should be a very important conversation. There should be absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions about the Government of another country.
For the most part, I don't think anyone has any problems with Jewish people. It should be plainly obvious that the overwhelming majority of them are just going about their lives like everyone else. Hell, one of my best friends and former roommate is Jewish; however, the fact that anyone who questions certain things about people in very powerful positions -- regardless of the institution/industry -- is always stonewalled immediately as an 'anti-semite' if that person happens to be Jewish.
It's nothing more than weaponizing an identity to keep people from asking important questions.
People shouldn't be afraid to ask questions or to search for the truth, but apparently that's the world we live in now.
Footage of WTC7 falling was what made me investigate further into the entire incident.
Not everything has to be believed, but if anyone comes away from the entire thing with anything other than that there was clearly some fuckery involved, I don't know what to say.
“The principal conclusion of our study is that fire did not cause the collapse of WTC 7 on 9/11, contrary to the conclusions of NIST and private engineering firms that studied the collapse. The secondary conclusion of our study is that the collapse of WTC 7 was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.”
was a global failure involving the near-simultaneous failure of every column in the building.
That's common. Once some of the columns have failed, the rest now have to carry the weight of the entire building. Often that force is at odd angles they aren't designed for, too. So they fail too.
If you think it makes no sense that WTC 7 was destroyed then you didn't look into any of the details around the collapse of WTC 7.
Not only was there a major fire in WTC 7, the building was severely damaged from falling debris, and there is a massive visible scar that cut through at least 10 stories. The damage to the building, combined with the unique architecture of the building (because it contained a massive building sized generator) is what led to it's collapse.
Israel is behaving as an ally should: with it's own interests at heart as it's top priority. The US isn't used to having that since many of our "allies" act effectively as vassal states.
What's your point?
Using an argument from authority based off the opinions of one person, don't invalidate the views of another.
Especially when many of those opinions are strawmans or reductio ad absurdum.
I'm not telling you what to believe; form your own conclusions based off of your own beliefs.
I believe that page is just as speculative and and opinionated as those who believe otherwise.
In essence, much of it is offering different interpretations of events.
At no point am I saying they're responsible for what happened, but I would suggest that very likely at least had some foreknowledge of what would occur.
There's a memorandum not mentioned in your link sent to the 9/11 commission by a man named Gerald Shea that would suggest the same as well.
https://www.scribd.com/document/66321077/Gerald-Shea-Memo-to-the-9-11-Commission
Given Israel's history, (as briefly shown in that history graphic) it would be difficult to believe they'd be honest about involvement in such things. I'm of the belief that they did know beforehand.
A lot of the "debunk" relies on the alphabet agencies being forthcoming and truthful about what they tell people. Given what we've seen the last few years from these same groups, their credibility in my eyes is complete trash. They're in the business of lies and cover-ups.
Attributing their behavior to "immature conduct," as the official belief goes, is silly to me. I also don't buy the excuse of "now they know what we go through." People don't celebrate other people's misery because it validates their own.
Although I've seen the page you linked before, and it provides a nice aggregation of information, the interpretations by whomever is writing the opinions are just strawmans, arguments from authority, and reductio ad absurdum.I'll also admit that I don't like how it tries to paint them as victims at the end. To me that comes across as tryhard.
I'm skeptical by nature. For better or worse.
It's fine that we disagree, though. I certainly wouldn't say you're wrong for believing what you do, I just personally don't buy into it as well.
Sadly, the entire event has been tarnished forever by retards spouting absolutely insane crap very loudly. Silly crap like mini-nukes, direct energy weapons, thermite paint, and even holograms only served to discredit anyone seeking actual answers. Maybe that was intentional?
Anyone, best of luck to you out there, man. Stay safe and healthy.
It still makes no sense whatsoever that WTC7 was completely destroyed.
Conveniently enough, the Enron investigation was taking place in one of the towers as well.
For those who want to get up to speed, check out this video:
https://youtu.be/n_fp5kaVYhk
Don't take the video as gospel, but consider the information available in it, as well as the information available elsewhere, and form your own views.
I think one of the more important aspects of 9/11 that never gets talked about is the "dancing Israelis."
Watch this video to get up to speed on them:
https://youtu.be/xv5s_VEmZd0
People should learn their history. While Israel may be considered an "ally," they have a very questionable history with the US. In fact, much of their behavior is not the behavior one would expect from a country that we're allied with.
Here's a quick infographic that gives a pretty quick snapshot of some of the history between the US and Israel.
https://postimg.cc/MMQCMPD6
There's a lot that we're never even taught in schools, which is truly baffling. I suggest everyone look into things further if you enjoy history.
What's really messed up is that any time someone tries to bring attention to these things, they're immediately labeled as an "anti-semite."
Using that as a deflection is nothing more than trying to shut down what should be a very important conversation. There should be absolutely nothing wrong with asking questions about the Government of another country.
For the most part, I don't think anyone has any problems with Jewish people. It should be plainly obvious that the overwhelming majority of them are just going about their lives like everyone else. Hell, one of my best friends and former roommate is Jewish; however, the fact that anyone who questions certain things about people in very powerful positions -- regardless of the institution/industry -- is always stonewalled immediately as an 'anti-semite' if that person happens to be Jewish.
It's nothing more than weaponizing an identity to keep people from asking important questions.
People shouldn't be afraid to ask questions or to search for the truth, but apparently that's the world we live in now.
Footage of WTC7 falling was what made me investigate further into the entire incident.
Not everything has to be believed, but if anyone comes away from the entire thing with anything other than that there was clearly some fuckery involved, I don't know what to say.
Definitely. WTC7 still makes no sense to this day. Here's a really good read about WTC7 by a team of engineers:
https://ine.uaf.edu/wtc7
Here's a quick video clip for those unfamiliar:
https://streamable.com/nmitqg
That's common. Once some of the columns have failed, the rest now have to carry the weight of the entire building. Often that force is at odd angles they aren't designed for, too. So they fail too.
Read their report.
These are some of the brightest engineers in the world from two different schools collaborating. You're sorely mistaken.
It's a trick, they always use it. But it only works on White people.
If you think it makes no sense that WTC 7 was destroyed then you didn't look into any of the details around the collapse of WTC 7.
Not only was there a major fire in WTC 7, the building was severely damaged from falling debris, and there is a massive visible scar that cut through at least 10 stories. The damage to the building, combined with the unique architecture of the building (because it contained a massive building sized generator) is what led to it's collapse.
Israel is behaving as an ally should: with it's own interests at heart as it's top priority. The US isn't used to having that since many of our "allies" act effectively as vassal states.
http://www.911myths.com/index.php?title=Dancing_Israelis
What's your point?
Using an argument from authority based off the opinions of one person, don't invalidate the views of another.
Especially when many of those opinions are strawmans or reductio ad absurdum.
I'm not telling you what to believe; form your own conclusions based off of your own beliefs.
Errm... Those are facts from multiple people, and multiple sources.
Take it as you want. I consider the claim "Dacing Israeli" and the conspiracy theory that revolves around it debunked.
I believe that page is just as speculative and and opinionated as those who believe otherwise.
In essence, much of it is offering different interpretations of events.
At no point am I saying they're responsible for what happened, but I would suggest that very likely at least had some foreknowledge of what would occur.
There's a memorandum not mentioned in your link sent to the 9/11 commission by a man named Gerald Shea that would suggest the same as well. https://www.scribd.com/document/66321077/Gerald-Shea-Memo-to-the-9-11-Commission
Given Israel's history, (as briefly shown in that history graphic) it would be difficult to believe they'd be honest about involvement in such things. I'm of the belief that they did know beforehand.
A lot of the "debunk" relies on the alphabet agencies being forthcoming and truthful about what they tell people. Given what we've seen the last few years from these same groups, their credibility in my eyes is complete trash. They're in the business of lies and cover-ups.
Attributing their behavior to "immature conduct," as the official belief goes, is silly to me. I also don't buy the excuse of "now they know what we go through." People don't celebrate other people's misery because it validates their own.
Although I've seen the page you linked before, and it provides a nice aggregation of information, the interpretations by whomever is writing the opinions are just strawmans, arguments from authority, and reductio ad absurdum.I'll also admit that I don't like how it tries to paint them as victims at the end. To me that comes across as tryhard.
I'm skeptical by nature. For better or worse.
It's fine that we disagree, though. I certainly wouldn't say you're wrong for believing what you do, I just personally don't buy into it as well.
Sadly, the entire event has been tarnished forever by retards spouting absolutely insane crap very loudly. Silly crap like mini-nukes, direct energy weapons, thermite paint, and even holograms only served to discredit anyone seeking actual answers. Maybe that was intentional?
Anyone, best of luck to you out there, man. Stay safe and healthy.