Corinth was physically removed by Rome, which is the usual demarcation of Rome controlling Greece, halfway through Polybius' life. The Mouse Utopia shows that when animals don't have to struggle to survive they choose not to survive.
The Mouse Utopia shows that when animals don't have to struggle to survive they choose not to survive.
It suggests when we have nothing to do and not purpose we self-implode.
"need to struggle to survive" wording is rather bullshit though, a lot of things seems to change if we're constantly struggling to survive - a lack of interest in sex, high order brain function shutting off, and eventually violent conflict with our competitors to destroy others using the resources we need.
Humans seem to be evolved for an environment - in my opinion - where we're doing about 50% of the max work we could be. It doesn't matter if it doesn't sound cool that seems to be what it is. To little to do and we self-destruct from lethargy, to much just to survive and we get violent and aggressive.
To jump on your point, and tangent to something else I've been thinking about, I believe a huge problem with "wealthy" societies now is the lack of actual productive work...
Like, agriculture produces something of value. So does manufacturing. So does primary production. So does construction. These things formed the bulk of tenable employment until fairly recently (at least for men), and they actually CREATE something of tangible value to society, in the process...
Most (high paying, "desirable") work now, service work at least, produces nothing of actual value. Academia, admin, "management", HR, finance, all the other completely pointless "make work" jobs we have created for ourselves - these produce NOTHING of tangible physical value, except perhaps bytes of data, and paperwork. Doing these jobs, you don't feel the same sense of achievement, the same... Mateship and teamwork, or indeed expend anywhere near the same physical effort as the other jobs I mentioned, and yet... They are where the money is, and what we are told to ascribe to...
I think that's a massive part of all that is wrong with our society, and if we continue down this path... I honestly believe that we will likely end up closer to "Fall of Rome" than "fully automated luxury auto gay space communism", like the fags over at r/Stupidpol seem to believe we are headed for, lol...
Corinth was physically removed by Rome, which is the usual demarcation of Rome controlling Greece, halfway through Polybius' life. The Mouse Utopia shows that when animals don't have to struggle to survive they choose not to survive.
It suggests when we have nothing to do and not purpose we self-implode.
"need to struggle to survive" wording is rather bullshit though, a lot of things seems to change if we're constantly struggling to survive - a lack of interest in sex, high order brain function shutting off, and eventually violent conflict with our competitors to destroy others using the resources we need.
Humans seem to be evolved for an environment - in my opinion - where we're doing about 50% of the max work we could be. It doesn't matter if it doesn't sound cool that seems to be what it is. To little to do and we self-destruct from lethargy, to much just to survive and we get violent and aggressive.
Yeah, this seems fairly apt...
To jump on your point, and tangent to something else I've been thinking about, I believe a huge problem with "wealthy" societies now is the lack of actual productive work...
Like, agriculture produces something of value. So does manufacturing. So does primary production. So does construction. These things formed the bulk of tenable employment until fairly recently (at least for men), and they actually CREATE something of tangible value to society, in the process...
Most (high paying, "desirable") work now, service work at least, produces nothing of actual value. Academia, admin, "management", HR, finance, all the other completely pointless "make work" jobs we have created for ourselves - these produce NOTHING of tangible physical value, except perhaps bytes of data, and paperwork. Doing these jobs, you don't feel the same sense of achievement, the same... Mateship and teamwork, or indeed expend anywhere near the same physical effort as the other jobs I mentioned, and yet... They are where the money is, and what we are told to ascribe to...
I think that's a massive part of all that is wrong with our society, and if we continue down this path... I honestly believe that we will likely end up closer to "Fall of Rome" than "fully automated luxury auto gay space communism", like the fags over at r/Stupidpol seem to believe we are headed for, lol...
/endrant