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Never thought I'd say this, but Vive La Révolution (www.rt.com)
posted 4 years ago by dagthegnome 4 years ago by dagthegnome +47 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

This is very interesting, because the union in question (CGT) is actually a Marxist union.

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– dagthegnome [S] 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Marxist union

Water is wet

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Most unions are concerned with improving labor conditions and getting the leadership money and power. But CGT is an actually proper Marxist union.

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– dagthegnome [S] 13 points 4 years ago +13 / -0

Unions are by nature and design corrupt and cronyist institutions. Any improvements they secure for labor are incidental at best. In Europe, they would never have gotten off the ground to gain the social and political power they have had it not been for financial support from the USSR and other Communist states. In the North America, they would never have gotten off the ground if it hadn't been for the mob.

Unions are by nature criminal.orgianizations whose main goal is to enrich their own leadership at the expense of their members. Just like a communist state. All unions are structurally communist, even if not necessarily ideologically Marxist.

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– AntonioOfVenice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Unions are by nature and design corrupt and cronyist institutions.

Correct. All institutions are. It's the Iron Law of Oligarchy. That said, unions balance the enormity of corporate power, which is why I do support unions. The greatest threat to liberty is not corrupt institutions, as they all are, but institutions that have power and are not checked and balanced.

In Europe, they would never have gotten off the ground to gain the social and political power they have had it not been for financial support from the USSR and other Communist states.

Unions were already huge before the USSR. E.g. the labour movement in Germany. Regardless, if this were true, they did not benefit the USSR.

Unions are by nature criminal.orgianizations whose main goal is to enrich their own leadership at the expense of their members.

Again, this is a universal among organizations, that does not mean that they should not exist (though some, like teacher's unions, definitely should not). But I look to labour conditions in the US and I am quite happy that we have had unions, even if it depresses the labour market and wages to some extent.

I am not sure their current contribution is as good as it has historically been.

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– Kaarous 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

Is there any shibboleth of Marxism that u/AntonioOfVenice won't make apologetics for?

Here we have a useful learning opportunity for anyone new to this board.

There is a crime in Western Civilization that is commonly known as racketeering. It's when you attempt, via coercion, force, corruption or fraud to force a business to use ONLY your product for their business. Take the carpentry industry for example. If you were to force a carpenter to ignore all other suppliers except you as a source for the wood he needs for his business, you are a criminal who is engaging in racketeering.

This is illegal in every single respect in the United States, except for one. Labor.

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– AntonioOfVenice 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

You're entitled to your simping for giant corporations. I hope they see this bro. You're not entitled to your made up nonsense. As for unions, actual orthodox Marxists complained that trade unions were more interested in bettering conditions for their workers than in their great revolution. A pattern repeated many times.

Stick to fervently daydreaming about a race war. At least that makes you just immoral and not wrong.

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– DonuteaterReturns 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Most unions are into woke shit too. Unions aren't our ally.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Union members are our allies.

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– deleted 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

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