No, my problem lies in the implausibility of using a commercial fumigant designed for safer application than sodium cyanide and acid. It just doesn't make sense at any level. If they dumped the zyklon directly in the chamber, it's going to be releasing HCN for up to 72 hours, based on heat and airflow conditions. If they heated the granules and cycled the air, it may have worked in the "advertised" 30 minutes. But again, that's not even the claim.
A diesel engine's exhaust, in itself, creates pressure and poison. This make sense. Emissions circulate. It was also apparently used, though the record says the "blue skin" (it's red) and excrement from carbon monoxide poisoning was too traumatic for the executioners.
Again, the story stinks. There's just too much bullshit. Just dump sodium cyanide in some acid. This will get you the desired result (as we do in the US). Don't use some slow release diatomaceous earth.
Given some of your previous arguments, I'm not confident in your understanding of the chemicals themselves. And I wouldn't be surprised if there were additional modifications to what the government ordered, versus what you are aware of.
I especially don't trust it when you say things like the diesel emissions make pressure, as if the Zyklon B wouldn't.
It was also apparently used, though the record says the "blue skin" (it's red) and excrement from carbon monoxide poisoning was too traumatic for the executioners.
I doubt that very much. It's far more likely they were traumatized by the labor of actually killing and burying thousands of people. The blue skin might have stuck out to them, but the incessant murder was probably the thing that actually did them in. This is one of the things that generated the Milgram Experiment, because the National Socialists were looking to improve moral and keep good order & discipline among their executioners. Turns out people's minds start to break when you actively seek to kill people in the dozens, every day, for weeks on end. Even heavily indoctrinated soldiers didn't last much longer. Hence why they built camps, hence why they had Sonderkommandos.
On the measure of eliminating postmortem indicators of a violent death, gassing was clearly preferable to using firearms because it did not leave the horrific wounds produced by the early mass shootings. But different types of gas produced different results. Kurt Gerstein (the Chief Disinfection Officer) argued that carbon monoxide gassing left a greater mess than Zyklon-B. When the doors of the carbon monoxide chamber opened, “the bodies were thrown out blue, wet with sweat and urine, the legs covered with excrement and menstrual blood.” 49 For this reason, Höss preferred Zyklon-B:
There was no noticeable change in the bodies and no sign of convulsions or discolorations. Only after the bodies had been left lying for some time, that is to say after several hours, did the usual death stains appear in the places where they had lain. Soiling through opening of the bowels was also rare. There were no signs of wounding of any kind. The faces showed no distortion.
This doesn't really sound like a hydrogen cyanide death at all.
No, my problem lies in the implausibility of using a commercial fumigant designed for safer application than sodium cyanide and acid. It just doesn't make sense at any level. If they dumped the zyklon directly in the chamber, it's going to be releasing HCN for up to 72 hours, based on heat and airflow conditions. If they heated the granules and cycled the air, it may have worked in the "advertised" 30 minutes. But again, that's not even the claim.
A diesel engine's exhaust, in itself, creates pressure and poison. This make sense. Emissions circulate. It was also apparently used, though the record says the "blue skin" (it's red) and excrement from carbon monoxide poisoning was too traumatic for the executioners.
Again, the story stinks. There's just too much bullshit. Just dump sodium cyanide in some acid. This will get you the desired result (as we do in the US). Don't use some slow release diatomaceous earth.
Given some of your previous arguments, I'm not confident in your understanding of the chemicals themselves. And I wouldn't be surprised if there were additional modifications to what the government ordered, versus what you are aware of.
I especially don't trust it when you say things like the diesel emissions make pressure, as if the Zyklon B wouldn't.
I doubt that very much. It's far more likely they were traumatized by the labor of actually killing and burying thousands of people. The blue skin might have stuck out to them, but the incessant murder was probably the thing that actually did them in. This is one of the things that generated the Milgram Experiment, because the National Socialists were looking to improve moral and keep good order & discipline among their executioners. Turns out people's minds start to break when you actively seek to kill people in the dozens, every day, for weeks on end. Even heavily indoctrinated soldiers didn't last much longer. Hence why they built camps, hence why they had Sonderkommandos.
So you're claiming what? They were using Zyklon A? That's a new one.
https://link.springer.com/chapter/10.1007/978-3-319-97999-1_8
This doesn't really sound like a hydrogen cyanide death at all.