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This is how I'm coming close to accept we need Wrath (media.kotakuinaction2.win)
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– KekistanPM 33 points 4 years ago +33 / -0

I much prefer Christianity. Among other things they are not allowed to bear false witness to advance their cause, and they don't murder people who won't convert.

And peace comes from the Holy Spirit, not the carnal satisfactions of conquest or motivational speakers telling you how amazing you are.

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– MargarineMongoose 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

they don't murder people who won't convert.

Eh, that's not strictly true. Take a look at the spread of Christianity through Europe and you'll see plenty of "covert or die" going down. It's just not an approach they've used in recent history.

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– Steampunk_Moustache 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Among other things they are not allowed to bear false witness to advance their cause

Weakness.

and they don't murder people who won't convert.

More weakness.

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– novanleon 22 points 4 years ago +22 / -0

I’m sure Leftists would agree. Leftists are what you get when a society rejects Christianity and goes full atheist.

Every western society that rejects Christianity ends up losing its mind and embracing collectivism and authoritarianism.

I also note that most anti-theists are like homosexuals in that they almost always had some childhood trauma that fuels their anti-religious resentment. Simple atheists rarely harbor such resentment, and many even recognize the value of Christianity and religion in general.

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– Assassin47 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

It is because human psychology needs religion at a fundamental level. If you remove theism you need to replace it with something else that looks like a religion: like being a social justice warrior. We need things that feel like altruism, penance, universal justice, agape/brotherhood, and deifications of good and evil. Either we'll find those things through faith or they will be imposed on us by the state or culture.

(the Based Atheist only proves the exception to the rule)

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– Knife-TotingRat 11 points 4 years ago +11 / -0

I heard or read somewhere that there's a very important difference between a theistic cult or commune, and the non-theistic types. In the theistic type of place, the more demands placed on the followers, the longer it will last, and the stronger it will be. For the non-theistic kind, the fewer demands, the better (ie, the artsy-fartsy kind of hippie communes that were into things like MDA, LSD, and pot mostly just banned alcohol (because it doesn't play nice with MDA/MDMA).

What's going on is actually a brewing war between "Apollo" and "Dionysus", as well as being between "Dogs" and "Dingos", if you catch my drift.

As has been pointed out, a lot of the wokesters are basically just calvinists stripped of the supernaturalism.

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– browarrior1950 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Or they could realise the dangers of religion? Religion has no value except for controlling the masses.

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– novanleon 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Religion has no value except for controlling the masses.

A common atheist belief with no basis in reality.

Religion is inevitable... even atheists adhere to a worldview with underlying assumptions, and dogma isn't uniquely religious. Everyone is religious in this respect.

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– acp_k2win 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

I didn't downvote until you complained about downvoting, then I did because ha ha

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– acp_k2win 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

arguing on the internet is like racing the special olympics... even if you win you are still retarded

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– evilmathmagician 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

The only way to be free is to think for yourself and reject all masters, real and imaginary.

This works great when all power (priviledges and responsibilites) in a society is withheld from people who wish to be slaves. That does not fit the USA. I don't personally believe it's possible to uplift every person to self-actualization.

I think there are two possible remedies: stratify the citizenry into tiers of power, or de-scale into citystates so the city hives may not vote alongside the rural men.

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– evilmathmagician 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I'm a little reluctant to agree after seeing some of the silly reports dealing with our military recently, but foundationally it'd certainly be a step up.

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– realerfunction 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

we've been doing that

look what it got us

maybe the fundies had it right

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