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Felling of 90 Mitsubishi 1000A Wind Turbines - Controlled Demolition, Inc. After the first 10 years of operation, wind turbines tended to experience an “abrupt decline” in performance (www.youtube.com)
posted 4 years ago by xleb2 4 years ago by xleb2 +35 / -0
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– AntonioOfVenice 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Part of me wonders why the fuck we aren't we building modern nuclear power plants.

Opposition from some of the same groups that also claim that the LITERAL APOCALYPSE is here because of greenhouse gas emissions.

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– Biostrike14 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

Let me tell you a story from the deep past of the mid 1990s. I was an apprentice lineman for a power Corporation on the east coast. The big wigs announced that they were going to invest in some sort of carbon scrubber for the coal plants that would clean the emissions by 78% at a cost of 8 million. (I think the numbers are right this was 25 years ago)

The Sierra Club sued. Saying for 18 mill that number could be upped to 80%. The judge ruled that it was 80% or nothing.

So nothing got upgraded. And I saw on the news they were shuttering both plants in 2019 as to polluting.

That was when my 20 something ass came do the realization the environmental groups are nothing but scams looking for money.

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– AntonioOfVenice 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

I guess we should be thankful that the Sierra Club is in the process of self-destruction and anathematizing its own founder.

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– DrBarkanine 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

Because of boomers who are still scared of Chernobyl and Three Mile Island, and because of the green energy lobbyists only pushing for solar and wind (lobbyists that the left assure me don't exist).

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– yeldarb1983 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

beats keeping aging reactors online well past their planned decommissioning...

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– APDSmith 18 points 4 years ago +18 / -0

Oh, look, an arid, dusty environment. Unsurprisingly, wind turbine blades - constructed of fibreglass or carbon fibre - don't do very well in an environment that involves ten years of constant abrasion from airborne dust.

Also, because these blades are fibreglass \ carbon fibre, they're a total bastard to recycle, to the point that most simply don't.

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– xleb2 [S] 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

They're a blight on the planet.

I could not be more opposed to these things, marching across the land like packs of invasive alien technology. 100% terrible

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– APDSmith 17 points 4 years ago +17 / -0

I'm not opposed to them per se.

I am bitterly opposed to the reductive, childish level of debate that occurs around the entire power generation thing.

Every form of power generation has downsides. Every form. If there was one with no downsides, we'd all be using it.

Groups like Greenpeace assiduously downplay their opposition to each and every form of power generation, trying to cover up their apparent preference for returning us to the middle ages with ill-informed talk of "efficiency gains" when the kinds of efficiencies they would require - given their opposition to large-scale power generation - would violate quite important laws of thermodynamics.

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– AntonioOfVenice 10 points 4 years ago +10 / -0

Every form of power generation has downsides. Every form. If there was one with no downsides, we'd all be using it.

Some have worse downsides than others. Something like nuclear has a lot of advantages, but people are prejudiced against it. It's far better than this blight on every landscape, and coal which kills hundreds of people each year.

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– APDSmith 15 points 4 years ago +15 / -0

Yup. Just how ... unbalanced ... the public perception of nuclear is can be shown by the 2011 tsunami in Japan.

Almost 20,000 dead from the tsunami, and what leads in the papers? Two guys copped a dose from the Fukushima Daiichi reactor incident. You'd be hard-pressed from the coverage to realise a tsunami happened at all, such was the glee with which the press reported on the nuclear incident.

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– yeldarb1983 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

"There are no solutions, only tradeoffs" -Thomas Sowell

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Every form of power generation has downsides. Every form.

Growth/loss as defined by flow upon form; hence life (form) moving from inception to death (flow) having the free will of choice to balance as form within flow, for either self sustenance (need aka growth) or ignorance (want aka loss).

Each of us represents ONE (form) potential of ALL (flow) potentiality.

childish level of debate that occurs around the entire power generation thing.

That's because those debates aka reason (conflict between believe in truth versus false) is what corrupts ONEs (form) comprehension of being within ALL (flow). The few use suggestions (-isms) to trick the many to consent to ignorance of flow by believing in affixed form (beliefs; brands; idols).

They're harvesting our ignored energy; because we choose to ignore to GEN'ERATE, verb transitive [Latin genero. See Gender.] - "to procreate" the offered potentiality of ALL; which in return corrupts ONEs comprehension (potential) of ALL perceived (potentiality).

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– APDSmith 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

... are you an Eliza?

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I'm ONE within ALL; not the product of a twice divorced so called jewish criminal; pretending to be German; while propagating transhumanism onto mankind.

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– APDSmith 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

One of the early quasi-AI chatbots, endlessly duplicated since, was called "Eliza", apparently after the play Pygmalion, and it named the entire genre of chatbot after it.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

a blight on the planet

The blight on this plane are those who ignore to fertilize and sustain...that's what's preventing growth.

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– LauriThorne 12 points 4 years ago +12 / -0

You're the blight.

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– free-will-of-choice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Resisting ignorance is always a work in progress.

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– Mongle 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

Is it actually a bot or just a schizo?

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... continue reading thread?
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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There was nothing wrong with this comment. It's the arrogance of people who believe that they 'understand' things, when in reality they are trying to limit the realm of their ignorance, and they fail too often in that.

Saying this at the risk of being branded a bot myself.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

What if we exist within collective coherence; while our individual comprehension represents the incoherence aspect needed for balance?

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– LauriThorne 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0

Shut the fuck up you actual moron. You're the worst kind of fake intellectual. You write a 10 page essay to say nothing at all.

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– free-will-of-choice 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

nothing at all

ALL represents everything, and you represent ONE within ALL, so tell me; surrounded by everything...why did you choose to believe nothing exists?

fake intellectual

INTEL'LIGENCE, noun (Latin intelligentia, from intelligo, to understand). ONEs comprehension is based on free will of choice made upon ALL perceived. Your belief in "fake" within reality is what corrupts your comprehension, because you judge reality through the lens of believing in fake.

FAKE, noun - "one of the circles or windings of a cable or hawser, as it lies in a coil; a single turn". What does turning as form within flow imply? Resistance to flow aka self sustenance of form; a "single" form aka ONE within ALL. You are being deceived to believe in true vs false; when neither exist within change (flow). Your choice of ignorance.

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– LauriThorne 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

The fact that you can't conceptualize the idea of nothing is very concerning. Humanity discovered 0 thousands of years ago.

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– Lurker404 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

they're a total bastard to recycle, to the point that most simply don't.

The concrete foundation is no picnic either from what I've read.

It's probably easier to just spin up a sacrificial subsidiary that goes bankrupt the minute these turbines have reached their end of life. That way they can pawn off the clean-up to the state.

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– xleb2 [S] 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

Also this - https://stopthesethings.com/2020/06/15/how-long-do-wind-turbines-last-10-years-or-until-the-subsidies-run-out-whichever-occurs-first/

I have really come to hate these eyesores that are infecting every landscape.

My kids used to watch Animaniacs with the good idea/bad idea clip. These things are a bad idea.

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– SophiesBoyfriend 14 points 4 years ago +14 / -0

Wow - they cost as much as a “Victorian coal plant” at $25 / mwh ?

And remember - we are in the middle of a green energy cult - the true costs will be much much higher….

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– free-will-of-choice 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Animaniacs

Animate denotes order; Maniac denotes chaos. A deliberate contradiction in terms.

"Just for fun we run around the Warner movie lot."...rootless

"They lock us in the tower whenever we get caught"...rooted

"But we break loose and then vamoose"...revolution

"And now you know the plot!"...sleight of hand

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