I was looking at Bounding into Comics and there was an article about how Christopher Eccelson was saying that Dr. Who needed more women and that it was a bit of a "boys club". Of course the interviewer didn't ask him why he came to this conclusion after making his money. Someone in the comments asked something I've been asking for the last few years, which was "what is wrong with guys having something that they like?"
Although with Dr. Who, there were female fans going back to the beginning and they were never clamoring for a female doctor. If the show actually wanted to make money they would've just spun off a female time lord or something. This kind of reminds me of James Bond with the whole "men want to be him and women want to be with him", but now they seem to be ruining that character.
This is why I am very skeptical about any female fans or minority fans who can't shut up about representation. I mean just look in the gaming world with that Anita (can't remember her last name) or Zoe Quinn. I never thought that the gaming industry would succumb to this nonsense and it disgusts me when I see all these major comic con events with panels about females or something about racism.
If you are a true fan of something then you won't let the fact that you may not be "represented" stop you. I'm a black guy and was born in 1980. I remember when I first started buying comic books as a kid. Most of the people there were white guys but we bonded over comics. I didn't care about the demographics of the hobby. Same goes for sci-fi books, Star Wars, Star Trek, etc. That is why I firmly believe that if you are obsessed with diversity/representation then something is wrong with you. It is the height of arrogance to enter a hobby and then immediately demand that everything has to be about you. Of course the shill media will print endless articles about how evil white male nerds are or how evil star wars fans who don't like the sequel trilogy are. Although the funniest ones are how evil gamers are. Most nerds thought it was awesome if a woman showed interest in that stuff. I'm single now and I joke sometimes that if I went on a date and my date said that playing Skyrim is one of her passions I would propose on the spot.
Almost all of the new Who fans are women who wanted to be boned by either the 10th or the 11th. The whole "yaaaas, we want a female doctor" was bullshit. I remember the bafflement when the 12th turned out to be an old dude.
I'll agree with this. The female doctor thing was a BBC plan, nobody actually asked for it.
Side note, someone told me they now have an all female presenting team for the football shows. What the fuck?
I remember hearing a discussion of the doctor that stuck with me.
"He needs to be whimsical, a wise old man of the universe, and just a little broken."
Men want to be him, but Women both want to be whisked away by him on an adventure, and also want to try to fix him.
The gentlemanly aspects of the doctor are intrinsically linked to the structure of the show.
This is thrown out with a woman doctor.
Men generally don't fantasize about being whisked away on an adventure by a mysterious wise woman.
This structure can work switched, but you have to weaken the supernatural character more, make her a rather ordinary girl fleeing from supernatural forces using the power of a machine she doesn't really understand, and in desperate need of protection. There's your waifu bait.
Of course that wouldn't fly with a progressive board of approval, and also would be even more of a character break making it even harder for audiences to accept.
It would have been so much easier to go back to him being a dapper British dude with a face off the cover of a teen magazine. It wouldn't guarantee the show would be good, but it would have likely been a steady source of profit with a built in "thirsty teen girl" demographic.
Representation is bullshit. When I still cared about comics my favorite characters were a black guy (Spawn), a woman (Witchblade) and an Italian (The Darkness). I'm none of these and they were still my favorite comics.
Also goes to show that the whole "there was no diversity" argument is just as crap.
Exactly. My two favorite characters are Spider-Man and Superman. My favorite black characters were Steel and Jon Stewart. I liked them because of their qualities and with Jon Stewart I loved the green lantern Corp. X-Men for instance had plenty of great female characters. I laugh at the “no diversity” nonsense. Spawn was quite popular when he came out.
I don't think anyone who is genuinely interested in the thing would speak for a moment about 'representation'. The thought did not even cross my mind, and has never crossed my mind.
She doesn't deserve the respect of remembering her last name. Or, just say what NeoTechni calls her, Anita Shitstainian.
And now that's ruined, because they've made it about all their ridiculous identity fiefdoms. A place where you could relax from the exhaustion of non-stop 24/7 race-baiting is now infected with the exact same thing. Charming.
ANYONE using the buzzwords is an infiltrator and should be subjected to total war until they leave.
This is why I’ve changed my mind on gatekeeping. Welcome people who actually have an interest but keep people out who are latching on to destroy it.
The arguments against gatekeeping always were worthless.
And the complaints spawning from it were always veiled complaints that autistic ugly men dared talk to them. Seriously, every single gatekeeping "incident" I've heard has been "and then this overweight awkward guy said 'what's your favorite anime? Voice actor? Character?' as if I should know what an 'anime' or 'character' is just because I said I was an anime fan!"
Those crack me up the most. Women who complain about being “interrogated about lore”. Omg he asked me what comic books I like! Lol
You're being too lenient. In our old gaming clan everyone had to pass a test (we're nerds, testing each other is what we do) and if they failed, we didn't want them on our team yet.
No arguments here. Part of the fun of being a nerd is the testing and lore knowledge. Now that is attacked as toxic or gatekeeping
I'm Korean by blood but American born. Tons of the media I enjoyed as a kid and through the 2000's were all so-called "white" media. Also known as THE MEDIA OF THE DOMINANT CULTURE/RACE.
While I was watching GI Joe in the 90s never did I think "I SURE WISH THERE WAS AN ASIAN GUY ON THE TEAM" or something retarded like that. I was thinking "damn, those GI Joe guys are cool, I want to be badass like them!". Bitching about being a minority when the dominant culture are disparate groups of white people that came from different parts of Europe with predominantly different subcultures themselves is fucking stupid. I don't see myself as a "lump" of Asian people. The Koreans, Chinese, and Japanese in the East hate each other.
I can imagine many of the tribes in Africa hate each other as well, and don't forget the sectarian violence in the Middle East.
It drives me nuts that wanting people to stop fucking changing things because they think they need to appeal to me is now considered a CONSERVATIVE opinion.
Just make good shit, stop changing shit, stop touching my shit. I just want to play VIDEO GAMES MAN.
Amen brother. You make a great point. America is majority white so I’d expect that most entertainment has white people. If I lived in Japan I’d expect to see a mostly Japanese people on tv.
Whenever I hear these people I just want to tell them to find something else to watch and stop trying to ruin a show/movie franchise that a lot of people enjoy.
You should know by now that feminists are sadistic. They won't let you have any enjoyment or distraction from the hatred.
Add that to the fact that if you have no hobbies, you're more likely to fall into their clutches...
I regularly watch anime. Not once have I said "you know, this really needs more French people in it, there's too many Japanese in this Japanese anime."
Representation in art, in fiction, is about emotion, not petty surface level things. I'm not a japanese schoolgirl, but I know the stresses of tests and relationships and identify with those stories. The nationality and gender don't matter. The story makes you empathize with them. Anyone who says "this person does not have a cock the same color as mine, I therefore cannot empathize or identify with them at all" is a psychopath. Like, literally one. If emotions and desires cannot pierce their empathic shell, and they need someone who is identical to themselves to do so, that's clinical psychopathy.
Exactly. I enjoy anime too. I remember watching Crouching Tiger Hidden Dragon and enjoying every minute of it. Also love Bruce Lee movies. Superman and Spider-Man are my favorite characters because of their qualities. Not sure why people don’t understand that.
Eccleston was a good doctor, but it's abundantly clear that to him it was just an acting job and he knows next to nothing about the show itself.
So his opinion on its lore isn't really any better than mine or yours.
Ever notice how the "support black owned businesses" never actually support any black businessmen in media? OJ, MJ, and Wesley Snipes were all unfairly prosecuted by the system, and we never hear a peep from them. Even Cosby, to a certain extent, was overly-convicted of his crimes. But hand the activists a Democrat talking point, and they just lie their asses off and scream racism to the high heavens. I don't see Lebron ever getting the same treatment for inciting numerous attacks on cops. How many times does Shaun King need to crawl out from under the rock he's hiding, and keep getting called out, before his supporters get the hint?
My problem with saying support black owned businesses is not hat if it’s a crappy business? All around great points sir. Narratives are powerful.