Speaking as an older zoomer, it's extremely politically polarized. Especially among gender and racial lines.
Men in general trend right, women in general trend left. White zoomers tend to lean right, males overwhelmingly so, females around 50/50. Thing is, because of immigration (both legal and illegal) white zoomers aren't the majority in their age demographic.
Nonwhites trend more left overall, but that is largely depending on gender and the specific group. Cubans for instance trend right, as do native-born Hispanics. Asians trend left but that may change in the future with BLMs general hostility towards that group. Immigrants from India and the Middle East are mostly to the left as well.
Blacks are in a weird position where most of them vote left for handouts or because of perceived racism, while simultaneously being one of the most religious and socially conservative demographics overall. Seriously, ask an average black person their thoughts on LGBT in public, and leftists would be horrified.
I don't think this division is by accident. It's pretty clear and has already been discussed to death that the elites are creating demographic division through immigration and propaganda, to weaken the US.
I'd say most of that applies quite a bit up the age chart as well. About the only exception I notice is Millennial white men in their 20s lean pretty heavily left. I'm at the extreme old end of Millennials and don't notice that as much there, even when we were younger, but the "soyboy" crowd is very much the younger Millennials.
Women, yeah that trend hits every single age group. Even amongst older women in my right-leaning family, I'd say most of them are only right wing because of religious things like homos and abortion. Take that out and they would be leftists. They say they don't want to be communist or whatever, but put that mask on and get the shot, whatever it takes to keep us "safe." Think about some of Biden's statements in the debates, when he would turn to the camera and do the little spiel about how "oh so horrible the empty chair at the dining room table." I bet that crap just brings in the votes. It appeals to women's emotions that all sit there going "awwwww" while the men just realize it's him spewing bullshit and ignoring it.
They say they don't want to be communist or whatever, but put that mask on and get the shot, whatever it takes to keep us "safe."
Yeah that's just female nature. Leftism is female nature. It's 100% about safety and being taken care of, that's why they rely on a man to help them out of that state of hell. Communism has always been an attempt to take the dynamics of a family and keep them into your adult age. Only men can bring things back into order.
Good take. Parents protect and guide us until we are mature enough to run our own lives. But what happens if we fail to mature before our parents die? The leftist solution to this conundrum is to elevate the immortal state as our supreme authority. Now we can be children forever.
I'm starting to think 10,000 years of human civilization, 9,900 of which women weren't allowed political power, became that way for a very good reason.
Seriously. Take literally any group of people on the planet, from any background, and fling them into a wilderness survival situation. 99% of the time, the men are going to take charge and the women will fall in line. Even on shows like Naked and Afraid, the men basically take control right away.
There was some hardcore survival show that was done in Europe for Dutch or Danish TV and they had two 'tribes', all men, all women, on two different islands, and told them to survive. The men basically had shelter and fire on the first day, water and food on the second, and were getting along. The women were sitting around in the shade complaining and forming cliques.
Bear Grylls did the same thing and the results were identical. Men: "Here's the best option, let's go and do it." Women: "My feet hurt, I think this is stupid, this isn't fair." The producers had to literally give them cans of beans that 'washed up on the beach' to stop the women from starving to death.
I totally agree with you, and it's not some anti-women hate. It's just nature. Men and women are supposed to be different and are naturally equipped for different things. Yeah, sure there are outliers on both sides, but they are just that--outliers.
Are there millennials in their 20s these days? You'd have to be be born in the later part of the 90's and I think that would put someone in gen y. I know this is just nit picking but as a solid millennial I hate being lumped in with tide pod eating idiots.
Fuck, I guess I am just a 30-something year old boomer. Get the fuck off my ̶h̶e̶l̶i̶c̶o̶p̶t̶e̶r̶ yard!
I'm somewhat of an inbetweener of gen Z and millennials.
From my perspective on whites and their political convictions, it also differs by their economic background.
For example one of my old closest friends from high school had richer parents who spoiled him, and in return he ended up as a pot smoking hippie living off of a trust fund and constantly virtue signals about various leftwing issues. My other friend who came from a poor background has very socially conservative values including meritocracy, nationalism, christianity, and pro life.
Blacks are in a weird position where most of them vote left for handouts or because of perceived racism, while simultaneously being one of the most religious and socially conservative demographics overall. Seriously, ask an average black person their thoughts on LGBT in public, and leftists would be horrified.
blacks are culturally conservative, the same with immigrant hispanics, but they throw all of that away for the handouts.
So what's an older zoomer considered (in terms of age range)?
I'm either an old millennial or a young gen x ("Oregon Trail" generation). Late 30s, +/- a year or two.
I logged into Facebook for the first time in months last week. Looked up a whole bunch of friends from highschool. It was kind of shocking. Almost every single one of them is just a complete unabashed raving SJW liberal now. They were gamers, stoners, apolitical, smart kids, dumb kids, etc., in high school, just, you know, average people. Now reading what they post on Facebook they sound like freakout Karen dangerhairs. This guy I knew whose favorite thing was making "dead baby" jokes in highschool posted how he was literally crying when Biden won. Another guy posted how he got "chills" when he saw Wikipedia's entry for "President Biden" and it just kept going.
Actually you know what the difference is? Smart or dumb, stoner or jock, the guys who now work for non-profits, universities/schools, or the government, are all universally leftist freakouts.
The FEW who started their own businesses, or are contractors, or one guy who is an independent attorney, etc., either became conservative or were conservative before hand.
I'm curious where you're from (roughly, mainly a fairly conservative or liberal place). I am around the same age and did the same exercise just to see and saw very little as far as raging leftists. Strangely enough all of them were either teachers or nurses and only one of them was male. Definitely a soy male though, had the clothes, the glasses, the little "I got vaccinated" thing on their Facebook picture. I almost hate I have glasses anymore but I've worn them since I before I started school.
I grew up in the southern US, but not in a small town in a county that went to Biden. State overwhelmingly for Trump though.
Southern state, solid Trump win, in a mid-size city that is blue blue blue. Basically the second you get out of city limits it's Trump country, but within city limits its like 85/15 blue.
Well people tend to put the beginning of the Zoomer generation somewhere in the late 90s- one good defining standard I heard was that if you're too young to remember 9/11 you are a zoomer.
Some people put it a bit earlier around 1995-1996 but I've heard convincing arguments that there's kind of a mini in between generation in that range that doesn't fit into either millennial or zoomers and has its own identity.
In any case I was born in early 2001, so definitely a zoomer regardless of one's definition.
And yes I agree with regard to the people staying in academia the longest being the most leftist. It's a chicken or egg situation as to whether they make academia more leftist by their presence or they stay in academia because it was already leftist to begin with.
Hah! I was in college when you were born, and maybe in 2002 there was a big debate on campus about political registration of professors. It was pointed out that like 29/30 history professors were registered dem. 10/10 art history. 14/14 anthropology. 22/25 economics professors. etc. (made up numbers, but roughly in those quantities), Unsurprisingly, the VAST majority of professors were registered dems.
I remember attending a debate that was held between the campus conservative group and a campus liberal group. One professor actually stood up and said "Well, conservatives just aren't interested in pure learning--they're not interested in becoming professors because they want to join private industry. We don't discriminate against conservatives in hiring, because they're aren't any."
While it may or may not be true that many conservatives ARE more driven to start businesses, etc., she was totally blind to the fact that making statements like "Conservatives aren't interested in learning" or organizing a art history curriculum that is entirely Marxist, feminist, queer, etc, rather than just ... focused on history and art ... they drive out anyone that doesn't fit in to their mold.
So yeah, it is a chicken or the egg situation, but the chickens also smash all the eggs that don't fit nicely into their nests.
Gen Z is fucked. Women's control of education and culture broke them entirely.
Speaking as an older zoomer, it's extremely politically polarized. Especially among gender and racial lines.
Men in general trend right, women in general trend left. White zoomers tend to lean right, males overwhelmingly so, females around 50/50. Thing is, because of immigration (both legal and illegal) white zoomers aren't the majority in their age demographic.
Nonwhites trend more left overall, but that is largely depending on gender and the specific group. Cubans for instance trend right, as do native-born Hispanics. Asians trend left but that may change in the future with BLMs general hostility towards that group. Immigrants from India and the Middle East are mostly to the left as well.
Blacks are in a weird position where most of them vote left for handouts or because of perceived racism, while simultaneously being one of the most religious and socially conservative demographics overall. Seriously, ask an average black person their thoughts on LGBT in public, and leftists would be horrified.
I don't think this division is by accident. It's pretty clear and has already been discussed to death that the elites are creating demographic division through immigration and propaganda, to weaken the US.
I'd say most of that applies quite a bit up the age chart as well. About the only exception I notice is Millennial white men in their 20s lean pretty heavily left. I'm at the extreme old end of Millennials and don't notice that as much there, even when we were younger, but the "soyboy" crowd is very much the younger Millennials.
Women, yeah that trend hits every single age group. Even amongst older women in my right-leaning family, I'd say most of them are only right wing because of religious things like homos and abortion. Take that out and they would be leftists. They say they don't want to be communist or whatever, but put that mask on and get the shot, whatever it takes to keep us "safe." Think about some of Biden's statements in the debates, when he would turn to the camera and do the little spiel about how "oh so horrible the empty chair at the dining room table." I bet that crap just brings in the votes. It appeals to women's emotions that all sit there going "awwwww" while the men just realize it's him spewing bullshit and ignoring it.
Yeah that's just female nature. Leftism is female nature. It's 100% about safety and being taken care of, that's why they rely on a man to help them out of that state of hell. Communism has always been an attempt to take the dynamics of a family and keep them into your adult age. Only men can bring things back into order.
Good take. Parents protect and guide us until we are mature enough to run our own lives. But what happens if we fail to mature before our parents die? The leftist solution to this conundrum is to elevate the immortal state as our supreme authority. Now we can be children forever.
I'm starting to think 10,000 years of human civilization, 9,900 of which women weren't allowed political power, became that way for a very good reason.
Seriously. Take literally any group of people on the planet, from any background, and fling them into a wilderness survival situation. 99% of the time, the men are going to take charge and the women will fall in line. Even on shows like Naked and Afraid, the men basically take control right away.
There was some hardcore survival show that was done in Europe for Dutch or Danish TV and they had two 'tribes', all men, all women, on two different islands, and told them to survive. The men basically had shelter and fire on the first day, water and food on the second, and were getting along. The women were sitting around in the shade complaining and forming cliques.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NzCO0G8AGLU
Bear Grylls did the same thing and the results were identical. Men: "Here's the best option, let's go and do it." Women: "My feet hurt, I think this is stupid, this isn't fair." The producers had to literally give them cans of beans that 'washed up on the beach' to stop the women from starving to death.
I totally agree with you, and it's not some anti-women hate. It's just nature. Men and women are supposed to be different and are naturally equipped for different things. Yeah, sure there are outliers on both sides, but they are just that--outliers.
Are there millennials in their 20s these days? You'd have to be be born in the later part of the 90's and I think that would put someone in gen y. I know this is just nit picking but as a solid millennial I hate being lumped in with tide pod eating idiots.
Fuck, I guess I am just a 30-something year old boomer. Get the fuck off my ̶h̶e̶l̶i̶c̶o̶p̶t̶e̶r̶ yard!
Gen Y is millennials. Gen Z is zoomers. Young millennials are entering their late 20s now.
I'm somewhat of an inbetweener of gen Z and millennials.
From my perspective on whites and their political convictions, it also differs by their economic background.
For example one of my old closest friends from high school had richer parents who spoiled him, and in return he ended up as a pot smoking hippie living off of a trust fund and constantly virtue signals about various leftwing issues. My other friend who came from a poor background has very socially conservative values including meritocracy, nationalism, christianity, and pro life.
blacks are culturally conservative, the same with immigrant hispanics, but they throw all of that away for the handouts.
I was shocked to hear in a church sermon this morning that only 4% of people born after '83 involved God in any of their decision making.
I do not remember where the survey came from; but if true then it certainly explains a lot.
What do you mean "involve God"? Omnipresent. Literally can't not be involved in Literally everything.
I'm shocked it's only 4% that don't let tradcuckery rule.
So what's an older zoomer considered (in terms of age range)?
I'm either an old millennial or a young gen x ("Oregon Trail" generation). Late 30s, +/- a year or two.
I logged into Facebook for the first time in months last week. Looked up a whole bunch of friends from highschool. It was kind of shocking. Almost every single one of them is just a complete unabashed raving SJW liberal now. They were gamers, stoners, apolitical, smart kids, dumb kids, etc., in high school, just, you know, average people. Now reading what they post on Facebook they sound like freakout Karen dangerhairs. This guy I knew whose favorite thing was making "dead baby" jokes in highschool posted how he was literally crying when Biden won. Another guy posted how he got "chills" when he saw Wikipedia's entry for "President Biden" and it just kept going.
Actually you know what the difference is? Smart or dumb, stoner or jock, the guys who now work for non-profits, universities/schools, or the government, are all universally leftist freakouts.
The FEW who started their own businesses, or are contractors, or one guy who is an independent attorney, etc., either became conservative or were conservative before hand.
I'm curious where you're from (roughly, mainly a fairly conservative or liberal place). I am around the same age and did the same exercise just to see and saw very little as far as raging leftists. Strangely enough all of them were either teachers or nurses and only one of them was male. Definitely a soy male though, had the clothes, the glasses, the little "I got vaccinated" thing on their Facebook picture. I almost hate I have glasses anymore but I've worn them since I before I started school.
I grew up in the southern US, but not in a small town in a county that went to Biden. State overwhelmingly for Trump though.
Southern state, solid Trump win, in a mid-size city that is blue blue blue. Basically the second you get out of city limits it's Trump country, but within city limits its like 85/15 blue.
Well people tend to put the beginning of the Zoomer generation somewhere in the late 90s- one good defining standard I heard was that if you're too young to remember 9/11 you are a zoomer.
Some people put it a bit earlier around 1995-1996 but I've heard convincing arguments that there's kind of a mini in between generation in that range that doesn't fit into either millennial or zoomers and has its own identity.
In any case I was born in early 2001, so definitely a zoomer regardless of one's definition.
And yes I agree with regard to the people staying in academia the longest being the most leftist. It's a chicken or egg situation as to whether they make academia more leftist by their presence or they stay in academia because it was already leftist to begin with.
Hah! I was in college when you were born, and maybe in 2002 there was a big debate on campus about political registration of professors. It was pointed out that like 29/30 history professors were registered dem. 10/10 art history. 14/14 anthropology. 22/25 economics professors. etc. (made up numbers, but roughly in those quantities), Unsurprisingly, the VAST majority of professors were registered dems.
I remember attending a debate that was held between the campus conservative group and a campus liberal group. One professor actually stood up and said "Well, conservatives just aren't interested in pure learning--they're not interested in becoming professors because they want to join private industry. We don't discriminate against conservatives in hiring, because they're aren't any."
While it may or may not be true that many conservatives ARE more driven to start businesses, etc., she was totally blind to the fact that making statements like "Conservatives aren't interested in learning" or organizing a art history curriculum that is entirely Marxist, feminist, queer, etc, rather than just ... focused on history and art ... they drive out anyone that doesn't fit in to their mold.
So yeah, it is a chicken or the egg situation, but the chickens also smash all the eggs that don't fit nicely into their nests.