Just establishing a baseline framework. If were not on the same page on this, nothing else I'd say would make sense.
Marxism caught on better in the Pale than most anywhere else, for understandable reasons. Many of the revolutionaries that would go on to kill Tsar Alexander II were of Jewish background. That assassination was the catalyst for the pogroms,with many Eastern European Jews fleeing to America in the 1880-1920s. Particularly New York. They brought with them their socialist and Marxist ideologies, and set up some of the earliest Socialist organizations in America.
Many of the revolutionaries that would go on to kill Tsar Alexander II were of Jewish background.
Many? How many? I am pretty sure I know, but I don't think you do.
Note that terrorism in general was done by the so called Socialist Revolutionaries, who were not Marxist but agrarian socialists.
That assassination was the catalyst for the pogroms,with many Eastern European Jews fleeing to America in the 1880-1920s. Particularly New York. They brought with them their socialist and Marxist ideologies, and set up some of the earliest Socialist organizations in America.
The Eastern European Jews who fled were, generally, neither socialist nor Marxist. They were very quiet, traditionally religious types. This is actually what gave a massive spur to anti-Semitism, because the highly assimilated Jews of countries like Germany and France, and the German immigrant Jews of America, were suddenly confronted with Jews whom they considered to be beneath them - 'kikes', because they could not sign their name and instead used a circle.
Note that socialism never caught on in America, at least socialism as we know it in Europe, socialism of the Eduard Bernstein (yeah, hah hah hah) variety. Also note that socialism existed in Europe long before the Eastern European Jewish exodus. Europe, which was exporting a lot of its own population to the US at the same time.
Okay, you're going to pick hairs, and I'll have to cite Narodnaya Volya Jewish membership (and other Russian revolutionary political organizations), and you'll say only one active jewish assassin, the organization didn't matter, then we'll have to discuss the socialist living conditions Jews were accustomed to, then we'll probably eventually get into whether Jewish Bolshevism was a thing or not... which sounds kind of fun, but I probably won't have time for this can of worms today.
Also, kikels, because they refused to use a mark that looked similar to a cross.
Do you agree that CRT is an evolution of Critical Theory, which itself is an evolution of Marxism?
How can you disagree with facts?
Just establishing a baseline framework. If were not on the same page on this, nothing else I'd say would make sense.
Marxism caught on better in the Pale than most anywhere else, for understandable reasons. Many of the revolutionaries that would go on to kill Tsar Alexander II were of Jewish background. That assassination was the catalyst for the pogroms,with many Eastern European Jews fleeing to America in the 1880-1920s. Particularly New York. They brought with them their socialist and Marxist ideologies, and set up some of the earliest Socialist organizations in America.
Are we still in general agreement?
Many? How many? I am pretty sure I know, but I don't think you do.
Note that terrorism in general was done by the so called Socialist Revolutionaries, who were not Marxist but agrarian socialists.
The Eastern European Jews who fled were, generally, neither socialist nor Marxist. They were very quiet, traditionally religious types. This is actually what gave a massive spur to anti-Semitism, because the highly assimilated Jews of countries like Germany and France, and the German immigrant Jews of America, were suddenly confronted with Jews whom they considered to be beneath them - 'kikes', because they could not sign their name and instead used a circle.
Note that socialism never caught on in America, at least socialism as we know it in Europe, socialism of the Eduard Bernstein (yeah, hah hah hah) variety. Also note that socialism existed in Europe long before the Eastern European Jewish exodus. Europe, which was exporting a lot of its own population to the US at the same time.
No longer.
Okay, you're going to pick hairs, and I'll have to cite Narodnaya Volya Jewish membership (and other Russian revolutionary political organizations), and you'll say only one active jewish assassin, the organization didn't matter, then we'll have to discuss the socialist living conditions Jews were accustomed to, then we'll probably eventually get into whether Jewish Bolshevism was a thing or not... which sounds kind of fun, but I probably won't have time for this can of worms today.
Also, kikels, because they refused to use a mark that looked similar to a cross.