I am a Star Trek fan (not the new stuff) and I always heard Deep Space 9 is a ripoff of Babylon 5. Have the DS9 writers ever admitted as much or acknowledged an influence? I’m 19 episodes in and I’m liking it. I can see the concept for sure that DS9 uses.
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If you're into sci-fi, make sure to give Farscape a try. It's more adventure than thought-provoking, but it has some very interesting and unique science fiction elements sprinkled around and it has a heart. It also gets so much better with each passing season.
It's good at the beginning but they completely threw it away at the end and it makes the whole thing not worth watching. Lead becomes completely insufferable and the writing / direction is insulting.
Gotta agree. I just finished the entire series and was rolling my eyes nearly every episode.
First, we'll just ignore the number of times that the characters space walk with no suits. I don't give a shit that Dargo was an alien, he still has lungs and blood. But Crichton is fucking human.
The characters have no consistent traits. Do we need Dargo to be violent so that the plot can happen? Ok, he's in violent hyper rage now. Do we need him to be peaceful? Sure, he's peaceful now. Does Zan need to be angry? Ok, now she's angry and unreasonable. Now we don't need her to be angry? Ok good, she can be motherly again.
Same can be said for every other character, except maybe Rigel, who was just consistently a selfish idiot who nearly gets people killed by his actions on a regular basis.
Oh, Aryn's baby is a super growing Peacekeeper baby so it will be born in 4 days? (Also Rigel can gestate said baby in his stomach?) So why the fuck does cleavage chick's baby not pop out over the course of the miniseries? She was extremely pregnant on day 1 of the story, and still extremely pregnant at the end of the story.
And the entire premise for Aryn's exile from the Peacekeepers was that she was "tainted" by alien contact. Ok... Well explain fucking Scorpio? Does he not "taint" people in his presence by being alien? What about the other alien species we see later in the series that are present on Peacekeeper ships, like the one working on the wormhole technology? Or all the other times we see Peacekeepers interacting with various aliens.
Also ... why do the Peacekeepers bother with living ships to be used as prisoner transports in the first place? Wouldn't it be easier to just, y'know, build a prison ship that doesn't need to be restrained and piloted by an alien pilot? Also, don't the seemingly all-powerful aliens who originally made these living ships have a problem with them being enslaved?
And the crying... The fucking crying. Every goddamn episode, someone cries.
I liked the puppets. The make up and other practical effects were very impressive. Even the CGI was pretty respectable for its time and didn't look dated.
The stories all had plot holes big enough for Skaran battlecruisers to fly through.
Yes it's a shame because the visual effects were amazing. Many of the stories though were written by retards, faggots or women, or some combination thereof.
The girl who plays the red headed alien is extremely attractive.
Read between the lines. She was suspected of being a sympathizer.
Scorpio is a person that would climb the ranks of your organization with superhuman ruthlessness. Only reason he isn't Peacekeeper ruler, is that ruler can't spend all their time plotting to eradicate Scarrans.
Also he is something of a war hero. Accusing him of being tainted by foreign influence is like accusing Churchill of being a Nazi.
They are very cheap to build. Because they cost nothing and can reproduce. But they are usually cargo ships. Guess whoever transported them in Moya fucked up.
Peacekeeper race, doesn't gestate until triggered by doctor. Aryn was triggered under torture.
Rigel can gestate, because it's Cool or something.
Cleavage chick used her baby as leverage and gestation can be accelerated, and is usually accelerated for troopers to minimize sick leave.
It's not. Dargo is always violent. He's Klingon to Zan's Vulcan. Zan can be pissed, but takes great effort to prevent it. Dargo otoh defaults to violence, unless sexed or drugged.
Yeah, I saw that. What reason did he have to suspect that? Oh that's right -- because it makes the plot happen.
Except they had to invent some sort of control collar to get them to do what they want. Those probably weren't free. And they take time to grow. And it's just a dumb idea to begin with.
Also, I notice you dodged the most important question: why did the creators of this race of ships allow it to continue?
And? So? That doesn't have anything to do with the duration of gestation.
Can't tell if you're being serious or sarcastic here. Either way, it was insultingly stupid. A baby is going to gestate in digestive fluid? It's in space so it's science fiction! Durrrr.
No he fucking wasn't. And Zaan wasn't always insane. But when the plot needed them to be, they sure were.
Look, if you like a shitty sci fi series, that's fine. You do you. Hell, I watched the whole thing just to see if it ever "grew the beard." But this series was not well written. They pulled an embarrassing number of Deus Ex Machina out of their asses to get out of the corners that they'd written themselves into in those 4 seasons.
It's like people who like Twilight: it might have been entertaining, but IT WAS NOT GOOD. If you're entertained by people crying all the time because that's the only way the writers know how to make sure you understand that the situation is serious, well, you go for it. I prefer to not be insulted.
I'm of the complete opposite opinion. First season felt generic, but later the story gets way more engaging.
I’ve finished Farscape. Loved it. Can’t believe it was canceled so soon. I heard they may bring it back but in this era I don’t trust any show.
They made the peacekeeper wars that synthesize 1-2 seasons into movie length so as to finish the story, and then there were a bunch of comics.
Cool! Are there any books that take place in that universe?
I don't really know about that. Haven't read the comics yet.
It's at least as thought provoking as the clumsy Communist and Egalitarianism morality tales of Star Trek.