Social conservatives act socially conservative: news at 11.
Say a bunch of social conservatives live in a small town, and the local stores refuse to carry these shoes. Walmart comes in and offers them for sale. The townspeople unanimously vote to ban the sale of these shoes: would Styx allow them to do that, or would he force the town to allow Walmart to sell them?
Because while there's a lot of truth to the idea that conservatives have done a shit job of "conserving" anything, it's also true that generally speaking whenever they make the attempt they're told they aren't allowed to by some outsider. And they tend to not like those people.
Someday social liberals are going to have to deal with the fact that social conservatives do in fact exist and want to conserve their values and be allowed to do so. If you don't provide these people a safety valve somewhere, you're not going to like the result.
The biggest mistake conservatives made was allowing the church to become pozzed. Now they can't fall back on religion because Christianity has already been subverted.
I am very much in favor of the idea of localism and localities determining their own values and gatekeeping the hell out of them. The left does it quite successfully in places like Santa Cruz, Berkeley, San Francisco, Seattle, etc... The right ought to be allowed to do the same.
He also mentions at 4:31 that people are only for free speech if it's speech they agree with, I am also guilty of this as I want to laws against regressive leftist propaganda, and I want to regulate anti-loli speech by making it illegal to call people pedophiles for liking this material and also make it illegal to literally call it child porn.
It was either the afterword of Black Hawk Down or this book I read on how Muslim militancy and the mujahedeen got their start, but the writer of one of them talked about how he asked an elderly lady about peace in the M.E. She aggreed that most normal residents wanted peace, but when he followed up about peace with another, specific tribe of Islam, the lady basically said "fuck no, fuck em all, we can't have peace with those kinds of people."
"As long as my people are in charge, fuck you, beheading and bombing and get thee to the hinterlands of Hell where you belong, infidel.. If yours are in charge, we'll rape your wife and enslave your child and kill you."
That's why wars are fought: territory, food, sex, wealth, dogma. Power and control for it's own sake, and not in that order, although Power is often near the top if not number one.
Of course, if you're dealing with mindless hordes of NPCs, you can't reason with these frothing at the mouth savages, so of course, mass beheading is sometimes the only recourse. Sometimes you have to walk up to the degenerate and do a lotta damage. Not advocation of.
Late reply but I agree. It's objectively not and people who go around saying "pedophile" and " child porn" over it are disingenuous jackasses that smear innocent people and insult actual victims. I know actual victims that disagree greatly. (and seeing "literally kids" instead of anime , are they insane or stupid? but anime have more human rights now than people anyways) And biggest reeing is from leftist sjw (and also from the other thread there was some brigading from a certain "Christ is King+3rd Reich" .win sub around here that likes to issue violent threats on anything deemed "degenerate" , in minecraft)
It's really dumb . Shota is more ignored cause of hypocrisy but there was an anime I followed that had a shota character that people liked to ship with other characters but suddenly it becomes an issue to the same people. Did anything change? No. Did they help anyone? No .Just more idiocy and insanity which will lead to extending to more and more censorship and banning of more and more things.(and its already happening like what happened with amazon recently and other examples too )
And the insanity over this has gotten so disgusting and awful to the point that there were even sjw people even celebrating the fire at the Dragon maid Kyoto animation studio killing some animators cause of the "loli oppai" dragon character and it's design which they cry the typical accusations against. ( Hero Hei made a video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Ur4ZwkChc&ab_channel=HeroHei)
. Is this sane behaviour? This hysteria and violent threats and celebrating arson and death over anime characters? This ridiculous hysteria over freakin anime characters, this is where it all leads to.
Or, and keep an open mind on this one, accept that your "hobby" is degenerate, creeps out normal people, and pushing it into the public sphere creates unnecessary friction.
So occasionally some normie will virtue signal against it in public but you can just keep your mouth shut and pretend you don't hear them. And in exchange those of us who believe in liberty won't vocally support going after degenerate private forums and individuals who keep it to themselves.
That was the original bargain with faggots and trannies/crossdressers that has been broken and in turn broke society.
While I agree involving the fact that loli/shota is about as offensive as rape porn, the reasons people talk about it alot revolves around it's legality.
For example: nobody cares about feral porn as much as the laws in most countries don't affect it, while people in the UK are complaining about the "extreme porn" ban, which does not affect pornographic artwork with the exception of loli/shotacon.
Imagine living in this time and place, and your priority is making sure that people don't correctly label illustrations of children getting fucked as child pornography.
I'm not really sure how under Styx's conception of libertarianism he deals with things like Drag Queen Story Hour. I know he's big on parents teaching values to children, but that doesn't address the scenario where you have one pervert who decides to go to the library in drag and read to kids, and now all of a sudden you have Drag Queen Story Hour because you're apparently not allowed to tell the guy to fuck off.
I'd imagine he does it the same way he deals with most things he can't actually address: the endless recitation of "who cares?" He's been doing it more and more lately and it's starting to irritate me. Just because he doesn't care on account of having questionable moral fortitude doesn't mean other people don't care or shouldn't care.
Can't help but wonder if he's trying to convince his audience or himself. He severely underestimated the amount of rot that had set in the system (a lot of us did, in fairness). That had a huge effect on me, but fortunately I'm not a public figure so I'm more free to say "well this is a problem I think should be fixed, and libertarianism can't fix it; so I guess I'm no longer a libertarian"
While encouraging and facilitating the transition of minors is definitely bad and that laws to prevent this will likely not affect free speech, I am not sure how to prevent the spread of extremist propaganda without actively persecuting said extremists.
Our enemies don't have a problem with this: they classify us "extremists" and everything we say "hate speech" and use the full state industrial complex to shut us down. Maybe the only way to fight back is to do the same, until we win.
You don't libertarian your way into a libertarian society.
Social conservatives act socially conservative: news at 11.
Say a bunch of social conservatives live in a small town, and the local stores refuse to carry these shoes. Walmart comes in and offers them for sale. The townspeople unanimously vote to ban the sale of these shoes: would Styx allow them to do that, or would he force the town to allow Walmart to sell them?
Because while there's a lot of truth to the idea that conservatives have done a shit job of "conserving" anything, it's also true that generally speaking whenever they make the attempt they're told they aren't allowed to by some outsider. And they tend to not like those people.
Someday social liberals are going to have to deal with the fact that social conservatives do in fact exist and want to conserve their values and be allowed to do so. If you don't provide these people a safety valve somewhere, you're not going to like the result.
The biggest mistake conservatives made was allowing the church to become pozzed. Now they can't fall back on religion because Christianity has already been subverted.
This is why unaffiliated protestant churches are a thing.
Unaffiliated and nondenominational churches are the biggest pozzed fiesta there is
I am well aware of the opportunity for that there.
I am very much in favor of the idea of localism and localities determining their own values and gatekeeping the hell out of them. The left does it quite successfully in places like Santa Cruz, Berkeley, San Francisco, Seattle, etc... The right ought to be allowed to do the same.
Do you have any idea why the fuck I got downvoted?
Edit: I should note I was not accusing the poster of anything.
Probably cause the basic premise of the video is not true. Lil Nas X is not getting canceled nor is there any major push to cancel him.
I agree that there is no real push to cancel him because the tradcons lost all their influence since the rise of the regressive left.
I reflexively downvote any comment that complains about downvoting
No: you were at zero when I commented, and I don't downvote. When I disagree or critique I do so with my words.
He also mentions at 4:31 that people are only for free speech if it's speech they agree with, I am also guilty of this as I want to laws against regressive leftist propaganda, and I want to regulate anti-loli speech by making it illegal to call people pedophiles for liking this material and also make it illegal to literally call it child porn.
It was either the afterword of Black Hawk Down or this book I read on how Muslim militancy and the mujahedeen got their start, but the writer of one of them talked about how he asked an elderly lady about peace in the M.E. She aggreed that most normal residents wanted peace, but when he followed up about peace with another, specific tribe of Islam, the lady basically said "fuck no, fuck em all, we can't have peace with those kinds of people."
"As long as my people are in charge, fuck you, beheading and bombing and get thee to the hinterlands of Hell where you belong, infidel.. If yours are in charge, we'll rape your wife and enslave your child and kill you."
That's why wars are fought: territory, food, sex, wealth, dogma. Power and control for it's own sake, and not in that order, although Power is often near the top if not number one.
Of course, if you're dealing with mindless hordes of NPCs, you can't reason with these frothing at the mouth savages, so of course, mass beheading is sometimes the only recourse. Sometimes you have to walk up to the degenerate and do a lotta damage. Not advocation of.
Late reply but I agree. It's objectively not and people who go around saying "pedophile" and " child porn" over it are disingenuous jackasses that smear innocent people and insult actual victims. I know actual victims that disagree greatly. (and seeing "literally kids" instead of anime , are they insane or stupid? but anime have more human rights now than people anyways) And biggest reeing is from leftist sjw (and also from the other thread there was some brigading from a certain "Christ is King+3rd Reich" .win sub around here that likes to issue violent threats on anything deemed "degenerate" , in minecraft)
It's really dumb . Shota is more ignored cause of hypocrisy but there was an anime I followed that had a shota character that people liked to ship with other characters but suddenly it becomes an issue to the same people. Did anything change? No. Did they help anyone? No .Just more idiocy and insanity which will lead to extending to more and more censorship and banning of more and more things.(and its already happening like what happened with amazon recently and other examples too )
And the insanity over this has gotten so disgusting and awful to the point that there were even sjw people even celebrating the fire at the Dragon maid Kyoto animation studio killing some animators cause of the "loli oppai" dragon character and it's design which they cry the typical accusations against. ( Hero Hei made a video about it https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T7Ur4ZwkChc&ab_channel=HeroHei)
. Is this sane behaviour? This hysteria and violent threats and celebrating arson and death over anime characters? This ridiculous hysteria over freakin anime characters, this is where it all leads to.
Or, and keep an open mind on this one, accept that your "hobby" is degenerate, creeps out normal people, and pushing it into the public sphere creates unnecessary friction.
So occasionally some normie will virtue signal against it in public but you can just keep your mouth shut and pretend you don't hear them. And in exchange those of us who believe in liberty won't vocally support going after degenerate private forums and individuals who keep it to themselves.
That was the original bargain with faggots and trannies/crossdressers that has been broken and in turn broke society.
While I agree involving the fact that loli/shota is about as offensive as rape porn, the reasons people talk about it alot revolves around it's legality.
For example: nobody cares about feral porn as much as the laws in most countries don't affect it, while people in the UK are complaining about the "extreme porn" ban, which does not affect pornographic artwork with the exception of loli/shotacon.
The legality doesn't matter if the activity isn't in the public eye so is seen as an "easy win" for cops looking to make numbers.
Imagine living in this time and place, and your priority is making sure that people don't correctly label illustrations of children getting fucked as child pornography.
I'm not really sure how under Styx's conception of libertarianism he deals with things like Drag Queen Story Hour. I know he's big on parents teaching values to children, but that doesn't address the scenario where you have one pervert who decides to go to the library in drag and read to kids, and now all of a sudden you have Drag Queen Story Hour because you're apparently not allowed to tell the guy to fuck off.
I'd imagine he does it the same way he deals with most things he can't actually address: the endless recitation of "who cares?" He's been doing it more and more lately and it's starting to irritate me. Just because he doesn't care on account of having questionable moral fortitude doesn't mean other people don't care or shouldn't care.
Can't help but wonder if he's trying to convince his audience or himself. He severely underestimated the amount of rot that had set in the system (a lot of us did, in fairness). That had a huge effect on me, but fortunately I'm not a public figure so I'm more free to say "well this is a problem I think should be fixed, and libertarianism can't fix it; so I guess I'm no longer a libertarian"
Libertarianism deterritorialization can only fuel socialist reterritorialization. He plays a part in the leftist dialectic.
While encouraging and facilitating the transition of minors is definitely bad and that laws to prevent this will likely not affect free speech, I am not sure how to prevent the spread of extremist propaganda without actively persecuting said extremists.
Our enemies don't have a problem with this: they classify us "extremists" and everything we say "hate speech" and use the full state industrial complex to shut us down. Maybe the only way to fight back is to do the same, until we win.
You don't libertarian your way into a libertarian society.
"coRrEcTly" ...sure...(Also they are not "illustrations of children")
Due to recently uncovered grooming allegations that I was oblivious to, I am deleting this post.