A table of 6 coof vaccines compared; someone asked about it
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The sinovac vaccine appears to be the only one using actual (dead) virus to trigger immune response.
Yeah, but it's Chinese, so I have zero trust in it.
aka: one of the oldest and simplest methods of vaccination.
reduced effectiveness in comparison to the others, but I bet it won't kill anyone.
My speculation is that it produces a larger spectrum of defenses too. All the others focus on one single protein, meaning the virus could (in theory) mutate to no longer use that protein and the vaccines would be useless.
Bingo. Infinite lockdowns. Think about they already talk about the UK or South African strain.
Get a new strain and it is "oh no. Lockdowns again until we can get another vaccine produced."
Just FYI, any vaccine that's a viral vector vaccine (the J&J, Sputnik and Astra-Zeneca ones) is an mRNA vaccine that just uses a virus particle to deliver the mRNA.
I was thinking the same. All of them are variations on the same theme of "hacking" the human body in a way that has never been tried before on this scale.
OK, a "traditional vaccine" ("live attenuated") could be viewed, perhaps, as a "hacking" of the human body, but it is introducing an external stimulus identical too/very very similar to an actual infection, whereas these other "vaccines" are attempting to deliver instructions to our cells. To say that we understand how our cells work well enough to speak the language of our cells fluently to our cells... that is sophistry. We do not know enough to do this, in my view, and not suffer unintended consequences.
The Sinovac one would be the only one I would consider taking, not that I would take any. The good old fashion way is best.
Oxford/Astrazeneca, Sinovac, and Sputnik all use the same technology (I'm not sure why the chart uses different words to describe them). Sputnik uses two different adenoviruses to avoid the body's immune response to the first adenovirus spoiling the immune response to the payload on the second dose; Oxford doesn't (and may be less effective as a result). This is irrelevant for J&J because it's one dose.
Not that we'll ever see anything like this in shot happy America,
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Now we just need a comparison of deaths and other ill effects by vaccine.
I know someone who'll be taking one, I can at the very least get them to avoid AstraZeneca and Sinovac/Sputnik aren't in contention, but I haven't decided yet which of the remaining 3 is least evil.
Yikes, a 10 on the pain scale is supposed to be debilitating pain, like you literally can not function as you writhe in bed. Like kidney stones or severe burns.
Does it ever occur to her that CNN is feeding her an outrage addiction instead of the truth?
I'm sorry to hear that, but I hope your mom gets better soon.
This is a type of personal health decision that's quite personal, so I haven't (and won't) try to convince them not to take it.
Just trying to take advantage of the early information as you state.
My parents and sister all got Pfizer. Dad got tired for 2 days, sister got a massive migraine after the first dose, mom was fine. Appears that young people and people who regularly take some medications (not sure which, but sister is type 1 diabetic) are more likely to have harsh effects.
China: "Glorious Sinovac have no side effects reported. Under penalty of death. We have had no COVID in country in ever, but need vaccine for illness that originated in USA. Because it was taken from Canada. Now give us money for replacing lab where COVID originated here. We speak only truth!"
Moderna advantages: Works real good.
Moderna disadvantages: Two shots required. Expensive. Possibly changes your DNA so you become a person of soy.
Pfizer: Basically the same as Moderna. The industrial espionage is strong in these.
J&J advantages: One dose. Less novel tech. "No more tears" slogan suggests less danger of soy. Cheap. Easy to handle.
J&J disadvantages: Might not work so well. Some danger of soy.
Sputnik V advantages. Cheap. Effective. May put hair on your chest. No soy danger.
Sputnik V disadvantages: Takes two shots. Russian, so efficacy may be lies. May put hair on your chest.
Oxford/AstraZeneca advantages: Super-cheap.
Oxford/AstraZeneca disadvantages: Probably doesn't work. Causes blood clots. Takes two shots. May consist entirely of soy.
Sinovac: You've gotta be fucking kidding me.
Dude, grow a sense of humor. Sputnik's zero chance of making you soy is because it's Russian.
This is Moderna's first product. Their other products failed to pass safety trials. Source: https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=Moderna&oldid=1012071790
Interesting.
Is the link broken for all or just for me?
No wonder Astrazeneca is killing people, it's British.
Moderna is 50/50 and is triggering allergy responses.
Johnson & Johnson is basically using a cousin of the damn Covid virus to inoculate you.