That's consistent with my personal experience in my family. Old (particularly old and unhealthy), it's totally brutal on. Young, in 100% of cases I've had personal experience with, it's a very mild cold.
That's why I'd actually encourage the 65+ crowd to get the vaccine. I think young people should avoid it forever or until there's been better test cases. A 70 year old doesn't care about fertility and things that are unknowns either. If a octo-masker young leftist wants it, I don't care let them have it, but don't push it on everyone.
I first noticed in the stats how heavily it hit the old people in the early summer last year. Despite not being a statistician or anything. I think if we'd just gone back to normal with some very heavy cautions for how to deal with the elderly for a while, we'd have been a lot better off.
The old and leftists that demand it should get it. mRNA vaccines are tweaking cell genetics, but old people aren't going to live another 25 years to find themselves with whatever cancers this causes (they would have likely died from other cancers they would have gotten normally) and leftists, well, let's just say the gene pool needs a little chlorine.
They shouldn't tweak cell genetics. I'm not saying they definitely don't but that's not the stated purpose. The mRNA ends up in the cell but like virus genetic material it shouldn't generally end up in the host's genetic material (although virus dna has done this in the past and a good chunk of human dna is from viruses).
i swear i must have caught it around when all the lockdown malarky first started here in 1984 land
I had two instances of a bad cold/flu (kinda back to back) that i pretty much just mildly suffered through and I have not really taken any precautions against catching it
for example I don't bother with the anti bacterial gunge and the "mask" i wear is just a streachy tube scarf thing that is probably less effective than a mask (that has little efficacy anyway) its just to ward off the crazies that demand a mask
and I have yet to go down with anything like a flu all year
It is definitely worth reading this whole article but this following excerpt from the article is a must read.
"The Overestimated Dangers of Covid and Underestimated Dangers of Lockdowns
Covid-19 is disproportionately lethal to the very old and ill, and heavily so.
In the United States as of February 17th, 2021, nearly a third (31.8%) of “All Deaths Involving Covid-19” – as defined and reported by the CDC – were of persons 85 years old and older.
Nearly 60 percent (59.6%) of these deaths were of persons 75 years of age and older.
More than 81 percent (81.3%) were of people 65 years of age and older.
Despite media-trumpeted exceptions, serious suffering from Covid-19 is largely an experience for very old people.
Although Covid-19 is indeed unusually dangerous to very old people, it’s still not close to being a death warrant.
The infection fatality rate for 85-year-olds is estimated to be 15 percent; for 75-year-olds it’s estimated to be 4.6 percent.
For 65-year-olds, Covid’s infection fatality rate is estimated to be 1.4 percent. For 55-year-olds it’s estimated to be 0.4 percent.
Covid’s overall lethality compared to that of the seasonal flu is no more than 10 times greater. (Some estimates have Covid’s lethality, compared to that of the flu, to be as low as 3.5 times greater.)
Of course, because Covid’s lethality undeniably rises significantly with age, for the elderly Covid is far more than 10 times as deadly than is the flu, and for young people Covid is much less than ten times as deadly. (Keep in mind that the numbers in this and the previous two paragraphs come chiefly from before any vaccines were administered.)
In the Spring of 2020, hospitals in the U.S. had a financial incentive to inflate their Covid numbers. As reported on April 24, 2020, by USA Today, “The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients.”
Covid inflation occurred outside of the U.S. as well. In Toronto, for example, officials admit that they are inflating the Covid death count: Here’s Toronto Public Health: “Individuals who have died with COVID-19, but not as a result of COVID-19 are included in the case counts for COVID-19 deaths in Toronto.” (I encourage you to read the whole Twitter thread.)
Lockdowns themselves have negative health consequences. How could they not, even if the only such effect arises because of people’s increased difficulty of visiting physicians for non-Covid-related illnesses and injuries?
But there is evidence that negative health consequences of lockdowns extend beyond those that arise from delayed or foregone medical treatments.
There is credible evidence that lockdowns do not significantly reduce people’s exposure to the coronavirus.
Lockdowns have negative personal and social consequences. Avoiding contact with family and friends, even during holidays. Inability to fraternize at your favorite gym, coffee shop, bar, or restaurant.
Restrictions on travel. Even if you believe that these costs are worth paying, you cannot deny that these costs are serious.
Lockdowns have a severe negative impact on economic activity.
How could they not, given that people are prevented from going to work and from engaging in much ordinary commercial activity?
There’s debate about how much of the decline in economic activity is caused by voluntary action and how much is caused by the forcible lockdowns.
Even in light of the likelihood that people’s fear of Covid is further stoked by the very fact that governments’ resort to the dramatic action of locking us down, evidence exists that a great deal of economic damage was caused by the lockdowns themselves.
Misinformation and Misunderstanding are Rampant
I never recall the media giving running accounts of deaths from seasonal flu, from auto accidents, from heart disease, or from any other major sources of death.
But the media do give such accounts of Covid. The false impression is thus created that the dangers posed by Covid differ categorically from the dangers posed by other of life’s serious risks. I find it incredible to suppose that such out-of-context and biased reporting does not give the general public a terribly distorted and outsized impression of Covid’s dangers – an impression that is then reinforced by people communicating with each other.
Panic itself is contagious. As Gustave Le Bon observed in 1895, “Ideas, sentiments, emotions, and beliefs possess in crowds a contagious power as intense as that of microbes.”
Social media and other sources of 24/7/365 contact with hordes of strangers is a new phenomenon, one that seems to me to have created an unprecedentedly large crowd through which panic spreads.
Panic, in turn, corrupts human decision-making abilities.
This corruption is worsened by the echo-chamber feedback within the crowd. Combine these two realities with a third – namely, the difficulty the typical person experiences in expressing disagreement with a dominant narrative – and the overwhelming acceptance of the official fear-ladened account of Covid is unsurprising.
But this overwhelming acceptance does not imply its own validity."
His use of covid derangement syndrome I think is really apt, we've had years now of outright lies being shoved in peoples faces and we've all seen how eager an alarmingly high number of people have been to swallow it all whole, this is simply the next step.
That's consistent with my personal experience in my family. Old (particularly old and unhealthy), it's totally brutal on. Young, in 100% of cases I've had personal experience with, it's a very mild cold.
That's why I'd actually encourage the 65+ crowd to get the vaccine. I think young people should avoid it forever or until there's been better test cases. A 70 year old doesn't care about fertility and things that are unknowns either. If a octo-masker young leftist wants it, I don't care let them have it, but don't push it on everyone.
I first noticed in the stats how heavily it hit the old people in the early summer last year. Despite not being a statistician or anything. I think if we'd just gone back to normal with some very heavy cautions for how to deal with the elderly for a while, we'd have been a lot better off.
The old and leftists that demand it should get it. mRNA vaccines are tweaking cell genetics, but old people aren't going to live another 25 years to find themselves with whatever cancers this causes (they would have likely died from other cancers they would have gotten normally) and leftists, well, let's just say the gene pool needs a little chlorine.
Problem is, even if leftists don't have kids, they'll just indoctrinate someone else's.
They shouldn't tweak cell genetics. I'm not saying they definitely don't but that's not the stated purpose. The mRNA ends up in the cell but like virus genetic material it shouldn't generally end up in the host's genetic material (although virus dna has done this in the past and a good chunk of human dna is from viruses).
i swear i must have caught it around when all the lockdown malarky first started here in 1984 land
I had two instances of a bad cold/flu (kinda back to back) that i pretty much just mildly suffered through and I have not really taken any precautions against catching it
for example I don't bother with the anti bacterial gunge and the "mask" i wear is just a streachy tube scarf thing that is probably less effective than a mask (that has little efficacy anyway) its just to ward off the crazies that demand a mask
and I have yet to go down with anything like a flu all year
It is definitely worth reading this whole article but this following excerpt from the article is a must read.
"The Overestimated Dangers of Covid and Underestimated Dangers of Lockdowns
Covid-19 is disproportionately lethal to the very old and ill, and heavily so.
In the United States as of February 17th, 2021, nearly a third (31.8%) of “All Deaths Involving Covid-19” – as defined and reported by the CDC – were of persons 85 years old and older. Nearly 60 percent (59.6%) of these deaths were of persons 75 years of age and older. More than 81 percent (81.3%) were of people 65 years of age and older. Despite media-trumpeted exceptions, serious suffering from Covid-19 is largely an experience for very old people.
Although Covid-19 is indeed unusually dangerous to very old people, it’s still not close to being a death warrant. The infection fatality rate for 85-year-olds is estimated to be 15 percent; for 75-year-olds it’s estimated to be 4.6 percent. For 65-year-olds, Covid’s infection fatality rate is estimated to be 1.4 percent. For 55-year-olds it’s estimated to be 0.4 percent.
Covid’s overall lethality compared to that of the seasonal flu is no more than 10 times greater. (Some estimates have Covid’s lethality, compared to that of the flu, to be as low as 3.5 times greater.) Of course, because Covid’s lethality undeniably rises significantly with age, for the elderly Covid is far more than 10 times as deadly than is the flu, and for young people Covid is much less than ten times as deadly. (Keep in mind that the numbers in this and the previous two paragraphs come chiefly from before any vaccines were administered.)
In the Spring of 2020, hospitals in the U.S. had a financial incentive to inflate their Covid numbers. As reported on April 24, 2020, by USA Today, “The coronavirus relief legislation created a 20% premium, or add-on, for COVID-19 Medicare patients.” Covid inflation occurred outside of the U.S. as well. In Toronto, for example, officials admit that they are inflating the Covid death count: Here’s Toronto Public Health: “Individuals who have died with COVID-19, but not as a result of COVID-19 are included in the case counts for COVID-19 deaths in Toronto.” (I encourage you to read the whole Twitter thread.)
Lockdowns themselves have negative health consequences. How could they not, even if the only such effect arises because of people’s increased difficulty of visiting physicians for non-Covid-related illnesses and injuries? But there is evidence that negative health consequences of lockdowns extend beyond those that arise from delayed or foregone medical treatments. There is credible evidence that lockdowns do not significantly reduce people’s exposure to the coronavirus.
Lockdowns have negative personal and social consequences. Avoiding contact with family and friends, even during holidays. Inability to fraternize at your favorite gym, coffee shop, bar, or restaurant. Restrictions on travel. Even if you believe that these costs are worth paying, you cannot deny that these costs are serious. Lockdowns have a severe negative impact on economic activity. How could they not, given that people are prevented from going to work and from engaging in much ordinary commercial activity?
There’s debate about how much of the decline in economic activity is caused by voluntary action and how much is caused by the forcible lockdowns. Even in light of the likelihood that people’s fear of Covid is further stoked by the very fact that governments’ resort to the dramatic action of locking us down, evidence exists that a great deal of economic damage was caused by the lockdowns themselves.
Misinformation and Misunderstanding are Rampant I never recall the media giving running accounts of deaths from seasonal flu, from auto accidents, from heart disease, or from any other major sources of death. But the media do give such accounts of Covid. The false impression is thus created that the dangers posed by Covid differ categorically from the dangers posed by other of life’s serious risks. I find it incredible to suppose that such out-of-context and biased reporting does not give the general public a terribly distorted and outsized impression of Covid’s dangers – an impression that is then reinforced by people communicating with each other.
Panic itself is contagious. As Gustave Le Bon observed in 1895, “Ideas, sentiments, emotions, and beliefs possess in crowds a contagious power as intense as that of microbes.” Social media and other sources of 24/7/365 contact with hordes of strangers is a new phenomenon, one that seems to me to have created an unprecedentedly large crowd through which panic spreads.
Panic, in turn, corrupts human decision-making abilities. This corruption is worsened by the echo-chamber feedback within the crowd. Combine these two realities with a third – namely, the difficulty the typical person experiences in expressing disagreement with a dominant narrative – and the overwhelming acceptance of the official fear-ladened account of Covid is unsurprising. But this overwhelming acceptance does not imply its own validity."
contact with hordes of strangers is a new phenomenon, one that seems to me to have created an unprecedentedly large crowd through which panic spreads.
The importance cannot be stated enough
His use of covid derangement syndrome I think is really apt, we've had years now of outright lies being shoved in peoples faces and we've all seen how eager an alarmingly high number of people have been to swallow it all whole, this is simply the next step.