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The latest from Portland: "asking for protests to be peaceful is white supremacy" and "I'm on your f--king side" (twitter.com)
posted 5 years ago by AntonioOfVenice 5 years ago by AntonioOfVenice +40 / -0
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– ailurus 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Also look at the little wins too, and there's a lot. Senate is hopefully safe (definitely safe if Georgia holds) and if so that will hopefully shut down a lot of the worst stuff. Rs have (at the moment anyway) flipped 6 house seats.

And where I am in NY, Trump obviously still lost the state but did about 8% better than he did in 2016. My upstate congressional district was one of the few R reps from NY and in 2018 won the election 56% to 42%. This year (against the same D opponent, actually) she's currently up 63.5% to 35% In another upstate NY district, the D won in 2018 51 to 49. This year (again same matchup) R is up 53.3% to 42.5%.

It really does seem like people are waking up, at least slowly.

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– Gizortnik 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

that will hopefully shut down a lot of the worst stuff.

I just don't know anymore. We've seen a lot of executive fiats that are wildly unconstitutional that many people are still living under.

FDR literally rounded up Japanese people, confiscated their property, and put them in internment camps with an executive order. He criminalized the possession of gold and silver also with only an executive order.

Both were upheld by the Supreme Court. The later was regularly upheld by the Supreme Court on multiple cases well past FDR's term. Both involved federal felonies and mandatory prison sentences.

To this day, the internment ruling by the supreme court has not been overturned. The executive order simply stopped being executed. Gerald Ford de-criminalized private bullion ownership by a counter EO in 1974. For 41 years, you could be imprisoned for 10 years if you were caught selling gold coins without a licence, and for anything but the purpose of coin collection.

With The Great Reset planned, I could easily see a Harris administration invoking mandatory quarantine orders for outbreaks of Covid, or racism since that's a public health crisis too, as well as an executive ban on gold, silver, and crypto when they are trying to introduce a digital currency. Hell, I could imagine an "Red Flag" EO to seize firearms if you were involved in an outbreak of racism, islamaphobia, homophobia, misogyny, or any other newly declared mental illness.

Even if Harris didn't make the order, it's not impossible to suggest that the governors could try it.

It's not going to go over well by any stretch of the imagination, but I can't say it won't happen. I can't even say that the Senate would be relevant.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Remember when income tax was just a temporary measure to pay for World War I?

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– Gizortnik 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

No. Because you're thinking of the Civil War.

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– HallucinatoryBeing 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Fugg, I got it wrong. Thanks for the correction though.

That said, it does make me wonder how long the Civil War would've lasted without the income tax. Despite having the most factories and rail, the war lasted much longer than it should have due to Northern draftees being absolute shit marksmen. It's why Union veterans founded the National Rifle Association, to educate civilians on firearms and prevent another embarrassment like that again.

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