I meant "We" as Americans. It was a big thing. Trump made a comment about what a shithole Sweden was. Someone offered a bounty to go prove him wrong, Tim Pool was the man who did it. He went in trying to disprove Trump and ended up getting redpilled hard.
That was what catapulted him to relevancy in this culture war and was the start of his descent.
What is not yet happening is mass rioting, looting and burning in the manner that is taking place in America, and having an entire political faction either claim that it's justified or that it is 'peaceful'.
This is entirely personal bias. We have much horrific shit, but we don't have absurd numbers of grenade attacks. Fisticuffs and fires are far less dangerous than a single grenade, let alone the amount they get. And even then, tit for tat both are pretty far down the horrific scale, so its just subjectivity to really compare it.
But, their government is literally suppressing the data (that's why we had to send in a fucking bounty journalist on it) and the populace just rolls over for it. They barely have a pushback on it to need for a faction to claim its justified.
The only reason it seems less bad to you is because Sweden itself is irrelevant so whatever happens there is pretty meaningless outside of there. And I'm quite sorry every country in Europe laps up America's shit like a starving dog, but that doesn't make our internal, personal problems somehow way worse.
I'm ambivalent.
It was a comment on how you have spent the last few days posting nothing but doomer tier "America is so fucked" remarks. Not that I blame you, but you are letting it taint your perspective.
This is entirely personal bias. We have much horrific shit, but we don't have absurd numbers of grenade attacks. Fisticuffs and fires are far less dangerous than a single grenade, let alone the amount they get. And even then, tit for tat both are pretty far down the horrific scale, so its just subjectivity to really compare it.
The point is not that grenades are good, it's that just like the gang shootings that take place in say Baltimore, they are ordinary crime and gang warfare. The radical left has a long record of defending criminals and refusing to crack down on crime, claiming that society is to blame for gang shootings instead.
For that reason, I regard Malmo as business as usual. Even then, there are not masses of Swedish idiots defending or justifying what happens in Malmo. Denial is the worst you're going to get.
The dangerous thing about the BLM riots is that people are actually defending political violence and deadly rioting, which is the death knell for any civilized state in a way that ordinary, meaningless violence is not.
It was a comment on how you have spent the last few days posting nothing but doomer tier "America is so fucked" remarks. Not that I blame you, but you are letting it taint your perspective.
I've been a doomer ever since the backlash against the BLM terrorism failed to materialize. Initially, I was hoping that this would be the turning point, but watched with ever greater amazement that terrorism empowered them instead. If I have talked more about it in the past few days, that is just coincidence, as this is what I have believed since at least early June.
Even then, there are not masses of Swedish idiots defending or justifying what happens in Malmo. Denial is the worst you're going to get.
So now the average idiot doesn't even get to have the chance to see through deception. Its just completely suppressed to the point they don't even realize it. I don't see how you think this is better.
Especially because it works under the assumption that they wouldn't defend it when pressed on it, which I have seen many do. The complete censorship is just so strong they don't have to as often.
If I have talked more about it in the past few days, that is just coincidence, as this is what I have believed since at least early June.
I haven't seen you around as much since then, so that might just the the difference.
It's in a different class. And I think almost everyone knows what goes on in Malmo. The denial is regarding the immigrant nature of it, and that it's truly serious. Even that has been changing.
I don't think you fully understand what I mean. Just like your political elites do not care about Baltimore's sky-high crime rate, it's barely acknowledged. That is not a threat to democracy, whatever pitiful shadow of it there is in Europe - even less than in your country.
But groups engaging in violence for political ends, that is a real danger. That's all I'm trying to say. Especially when it's so widely approved of and justified. Is that really such a strange thing to say?
Especially because it works under the assumption that they wouldn't defend it when pressed on it, which I have seen many do. The complete censorship is just so strong they don't have to as often.
I think you would be surprised. While I don't know about Sweden specifically (the second worst shithole in Europe after the UK), if I compare the media in Europe and America, our media is nowhere nearly as bad. On the flip-side, we don't have large alternative media sources either, so maybe overall it's a wash or a point in your favor.
It's difficult for me to convey, but I can read your news sources, but you cannot read mine. I'm not partisan or chauvinistic, I think Europe is a shithole doomed to destruction as well. I'm trying to be as objective as I can be.
And who knows, maybe if we get riots, looting and murdering, thieving hordes rampaging through cities, our elite's response will be the same, or perhaps even worse. We're not there yet, thankfully.
I meant "We" as Americans. It was a big thing. Trump made a comment about what a shithole Sweden was. Someone offered a bounty to go prove him wrong, Tim Pool was the man who did it. He went in trying to disprove Trump and ended up getting redpilled hard.
That was what catapulted him to relevancy in this culture war and was the start of his descent.
This is entirely personal bias. We have much horrific shit, but we don't have absurd numbers of grenade attacks. Fisticuffs and fires are far less dangerous than a single grenade, let alone the amount they get. And even then, tit for tat both are pretty far down the horrific scale, so its just subjectivity to really compare it.
But, their government is literally suppressing the data (that's why we had to send in a fucking bounty journalist on it) and the populace just rolls over for it. They barely have a pushback on it to need for a faction to claim its justified.
The only reason it seems less bad to you is because Sweden itself is irrelevant so whatever happens there is pretty meaningless outside of there. And I'm quite sorry every country in Europe laps up America's shit like a starving dog, but that doesn't make our internal, personal problems somehow way worse.
It was a comment on how you have spent the last few days posting nothing but doomer tier "America is so fucked" remarks. Not that I blame you, but you are letting it taint your perspective.
The point is not that grenades are good, it's that just like the gang shootings that take place in say Baltimore, they are ordinary crime and gang warfare. The radical left has a long record of defending criminals and refusing to crack down on crime, claiming that society is to blame for gang shootings instead.
For that reason, I regard Malmo as business as usual. Even then, there are not masses of Swedish idiots defending or justifying what happens in Malmo. Denial is the worst you're going to get.
The dangerous thing about the BLM riots is that people are actually defending political violence and deadly rioting, which is the death knell for any civilized state in a way that ordinary, meaningless violence is not.
I've been a doomer ever since the backlash against the BLM terrorism failed to materialize. Initially, I was hoping that this would be the turning point, but watched with ever greater amazement that terrorism empowered them instead. If I have talked more about it in the past few days, that is just coincidence, as this is what I have believed since at least early June.
So now the average idiot doesn't even get to have the chance to see through deception. Its just completely suppressed to the point they don't even realize it. I don't see how you think this is better.
Especially because it works under the assumption that they wouldn't defend it when pressed on it, which I have seen many do. The complete censorship is just so strong they don't have to as often.
I haven't seen you around as much since then, so that might just the the difference.
It's in a different class. And I think almost everyone knows what goes on in Malmo. The denial is regarding the immigrant nature of it, and that it's truly serious. Even that has been changing.
I don't think you fully understand what I mean. Just like your political elites do not care about Baltimore's sky-high crime rate, it's barely acknowledged. That is not a threat to democracy, whatever pitiful shadow of it there is in Europe - even less than in your country.
But groups engaging in violence for political ends, that is a real danger. That's all I'm trying to say. Especially when it's so widely approved of and justified. Is that really such a strange thing to say?
I think you would be surprised. While I don't know about Sweden specifically (the second worst shithole in Europe after the UK), if I compare the media in Europe and America, our media is nowhere nearly as bad. On the flip-side, we don't have large alternative media sources either, so maybe overall it's a wash or a point in your favor.
It's difficult for me to convey, but I can read your news sources, but you cannot read mine. I'm not partisan or chauvinistic, I think Europe is a shithole doomed to destruction as well. I'm trying to be as objective as I can be.
And who knows, maybe if we get riots, looting and murdering, thieving hordes rampaging through cities, our elite's response will be the same, or perhaps even worse. We're not there yet, thankfully.