You literally work minimum wage, lmao.
I agree with you but I also think there's a lot unsaid in what is just a short tweet and since they brought up moon landing hoaxers I am assuming they are coming from where I am.
Yes, conspiracies exist, but it's obviously a red flag that people who fall for conspiracy theories typically believe pretty much all conspiracy theories.
Moon landing hoax is one of the most intellectually void positions in the conspiracy world (Pentagon Missile Theory is by far #1... Well it was until "SPAES LAZORS AND BLOO ROOFS") and it's fascinating how (as I detailed in another post here) that they do things like cite the Van Allen belts as a reason we can't get to the moon yet literally the only reason they think they know about the belts is because the very agencies tasked with dealing with them are also the only source for their existence.
I know a shit ton about most all conspiracy theories and I reject most of them upon review, and a big part of that is because of "one level deep thinking".
Like if you find a spent 9mm case on the street next to a dark stain... The conspiracy mindset is to say "someone was murdered!" and cling to it. Well okay, did anyone test the stain to see if it's blood or oil? How long was that brass lying there? Was there a camera aimed at that spot and if so did anyone try to get the footage?
That's critical thinking and all I ever see from the CT crowd is they just repeat shit from Bitchute videos, videos that are carefully created to sell a narrative.
In fact conspiracy material is usually so engineered and so poorly sourced, if there's one conspiracy theory I believe, it's that 90% of conspiracy content is inorganic, potentially government produced propaganda.
If you know about MKULTRA, Mockingbird, psyops, etc. there's good reason to believe this shit is seeded intentionally to manipulate a demographic who the government likely feels is a threat (anti-government gun-owning conservatives). None of this conspiracy shit targets the left and nobody ever asks why... Conspiracy Theory™ has successfully made hundreds of thousands of dissidents functionally convinced that the government is essentially a god with borderline supernatural omnipotent power to execute any plan and carry out any evil without ever once slipping up.
And if you're mad at a god, what can you actually do? Nothing, really... So the CT crowd just imprisons themselves online in a way that discredits themselves, they do nothing but complain, yet keep paying taxes and never resist because "muh feds".
Of all the conspiracies they ponder, what I just wrote has never been one. Which is strange to say the least.
If you can't address the best version of a given "conspiracy theory"
Because it doesn't exist. The second you point out any flaw they will >literally< lie to your face and tell you 'nobody believes that'.
What they believe is completely amorphous and undefinable. It's one thing that's convenient, until pushback occurs, then it's something else, and then something else. Trying to cling to the 'best version' is like grasping a jelly-like slime.
For example, someone pointing out telltale indications of thermite usage in the WTC
Well first, should I ask about the "cut column" before you deny anyone ever believed it? Because AE911 was obsessed with that column until it was revealed they basically hid exculpatory evidence it was cut by ground crews.
As for the "nanothermite" study, there's a wealth of evidence that it wasn't nanothermite, but a type of primer on the steel (which likely explains why they so easily found it, while not finding the reacted thermite which should've been in far greater quantities).
https://www.rajce.idnes.cz/bobule100/album/li1epoxid#LI1_16epi_04.jpg
This guy functionally replicated the results by mimicking the formulation of the steel primer, even resolving iron microspheres, and finding a duplicable spectrographic analysis. The issue of the MEK is also explained because bonded epoxies are functionally immune to MEK.
The problem is many conspiracies open up more questions that have a very obvious lack of any attempt to answer. If you want to build a fully-fledged theory, fine. But no matter what, things like 'official narratives' offer complete pictures, while conspiracy theories rarely ever do.
Thermite usage has a lot of questions involving how it actually was used, how it was placed, how much of it would've been used, when it was installed, etc. "Just" thermite isn't used in demolition projects for a reason, it just burns straight down, and it's very inefficient requiring a huge amount of thermite to burn remarkably little material, and it burns very fast.
Are you ruling out the possibility that maybe the "nanothermite" wasn't what they thought it was? Even in light of a lack of collaborating evidence that should exist if thermite were used?
That should make it super fucking easy to prove them wrong, but, as they people did the same damn thing, they end up getting rolled by them.
This is nonsense. Look at the replies I got in this thread. Conspiracy theorists have absolutely zero tolerance for anyone questioning their shit, and I know exactly why, it's because of what you said here:
"Conspiracy theorists" as they are rarely have critically thought about what they are espousing, they are just parroting what some talking head told them and it fed into their paranoia, contrarianism, and hatred of the government.
The bottom line is that conspiracy theory is for stupid people what porn is for lonely people. Stupid people love conspiracy theory, because it makes them feel really smart. They get to pretend they're a badass like Jason Bourne fighting against a trillion dollar intelligence apparatus. "Look at me, I broke the code, they can't stop me!"
When you question conspiracy theorists on their beliefs, this is a problem... because (like you said) they don't actually know anything, that means they do not know how to respond.
If conspiracy theory was logical then any resistance should have a logical response. But it's not logical, it's emotional. So you get emotional responses.
If a conspiracy theorist were to be backed in a corner, they'd basically have to admit they're stupid/gullible/wrong. Three things people would rather literally die than ever admit about themselves. So they do exactly what you see in this thread... they get furiously angry, they lash out in hatred, they scream until you leave and then they declare victory.
They will never respond to an argument. Ever. And they never have to me. Ever. Not in any thread, anywhere on this entire board, in 4+ years. I've seen this pattern of shitty behavior everywhere conspiracy theorist scumbags infest, for literally twenty fucking years.
The other defense mechanism they use basically is just outright denialism. If you point out a flaw in a conspiracy theory, they say "nobody believes that" even though they all fucking believe it. If you show them something they ignored/overlooked, they will tell you it isn't real.
These are not smart people. They aren't honest people, either. If conspiracy theory was about 'asking questions' they should welcome arguments, since in theory, it should help refine the theory down to the real facts. Instead they just believe whatever is put in front of them.
Is there a single 'official narrative' that you believe over any "mainstream" conspiracy theory (ie: no, you don't get to bring out Flat Earth)?
How is it that every single event that has a conspiracy theory tied to it, the conspiracy theory is always pretty much identical in belief amongst all conspiracy theorists? How is that different from any "existing conclusion"? Every single mass shooting is literally called a 'false flag' before a single name is released, is it not?
You won't list the conspiracies you believe, you wait for someone to name them, so you can pull out this jewish pilpul non-argument and you just selectively deny 'oh nobody believes that'.
Funny how if I go through the list you'll just claim nobody believes any conspiracies at all.
Meanwhile you colossally stupid fuckers think Sandy Hook was staged to 'TERK MAH GERNS' yet they waited until after Democrats lost control of congress and somehow didn't think to get Republicans on board to do it, so nothing happened.
LMAO and you didn't even think of that. You just believe that shit without question.
Yeah you're such a little rebel, yet you believe the same garbage every other one of your peers does, without question.
Then you mock believing the 'official narrative', even though every single one of your gay conspiracies is literally an official narrative in its own right, and you're too fucking dumb to realize you all believe the same shit.
Also what fucking investigation would even be possible most of the time? It’s not like some demolitions company would have a tape recorder in their safe that details how they planted explosives in the WTC7 and how they partnered with so and so and will definitely never be caught. Who would conduct these investigations? Probably the same government alphabet agency that had a hand in everything to begin with.
Do you not seriously realize that by this exact same logic, there's no point in believing conspiracy theory? You're never gonna actually 'prove' any of your theories either.
And if this is your attitude then the real position you have is "I don't actually believe conspiracy theories, this is just a big LARP."
It doesn't matter if the investigation isn't likely to bear fruit... it doesn't mean it couldn't be attempted. But did anyone ever even bother to attempt this in between pissing away thousands of hours squinting at pixels?
No, man. Nobody did. You didn't. The little jews making your videos didn't. Nobody on this entire site did. Nobody cashing in millions of dollars on your gullible asses like Alex Jones did. Not a single person bothered.
At least if you attempted it you could make the case that you are genuine.
If you actually believed in these conspiracies, you should be out of your mind with anger and rage. You shouldn't be letting anything get in your way. Instead you all act like it's a new season of TV and this is the latest twist.
If you don't action on anything you believe why do you even goddamn bother believing it? What do you get out of it?
How is it that you "critical thinkers" never once wondered why /r/conspiracy is still on Reddit, and Google/Youtube still has conspiracy theory content all over it?
Funny how everything is a fiendish plot, except anything you believe. Then it's definitely organic, even though you can't even tell us who created most of the conspiracy videos you've watched.
lmao look at literally every response I got in this thread from others. For an 'ultra fringe meaningless hyper-minority' or whatever you're trying to imply, how is it they just "happen" to all be in this thread?
You people are utterly insane. I called out in my first post here that every single time, conspiracy theorists turn into absolute unhinged psychotics when you question them, and sure enough, I have:
Oh no, we found a fucking retard who believes what the Federal Government tells him.
Have you ever tried not being a faggot?
Nice. What was your mom's religion again?
you're an autistic faggot with an inflated ego.
Holy fuck, you really need attention. Which is it? Mommy issues or daddy issues? Maybe both.
Not one single person is even trying to defend conspiracy theory. Because they CAN'T any more than someone in a cult can defend their weird relationship with some kind Jim Jones Dear Leader. It's a visceral emotional attachment, not a logical one, and emotional positions can only be argued with emotional arguments... like "stfu fag".
You're lying, and we both know it.
None of you even are critical enough thinkers to wonder why it is that Reddit still allows conspiracy theory subs and why Google allows conspiracy theory searches and videos on Youtube. Like it seriously never occurred to any of you to ask that.
Here's a question - what if someone got in and declassified everything, and yes, it turns out the government did it all. Pentagon missile, C4 in bldg 7, all to take part in Larry Shekelstein's insurance fraud.
What's the next step? Like literally what do you think will happen?
I mean, congress itself broke the Gulf of Tonkin false flag, and it didn't matter whatsoever.
Every "debate" with a CT ends with them screaming insane insults and pulling out Ol' Reliable: "I bet you believe CNN/I bet you got boosted/STFU fed shill."
Like clockwork with you psyop'd clowns.
It's funny how you know about MKULTRA but you think it only works on other people.
Here's the fun news: what you think will literally never matter to anybody, because you're never going to do shit.
There's actually not one single productive reason you have to 'believing' conspiracy theory. Because who cares? All you'll >>EVER<< do is weep on the internet like a little fag.
If you think the government machine-gunned 500 people in Vegas for nothing more than a laugh and you did absolutely nothing in retribution, then you'll never do anything, ever. Nobody important will ever take you seriously. You'll never hold a single meaningful position of power. Your beliefs are so inconsequential it's hard to put words to.
You've been crying about moon landing hoaxes for decades and, what, do you expect everybody to suddenly "wake up" and go dig up Neil Armstrong and desecrate his corpse or something? Like literally what do you think the 'end game' here is?
Thus, you completely prove my point. You're universally shitty people. You only read it enough to realize it's not going to suck your dick so you only muster up a faggoty pithy dismissal response.
Uh huh, sure, but you totally are a critical thinker when you couldn't handle a couple hundred words.
You're just a low-IQ asshole who can't handle anyone questioning your general accepted narrative.
I'm sure what shit response you have next is definitely not a second predictably pithy dismissal. Get back in your truck and deliver my Amazon packages you minimum wage fag.
As someone who regularly questions gay conspiracy theories, you people are infinitely more shitty and angry. No question.
I can't even get Sandy Hook Truthers to own up as to why Dear Wolfgang has a certain incredibly obvious, wildly blatant lie about how much ammo Adam Lanza had on him. And it's not a "misspeaking" error, it's what can only be described as pure fabrication.
Conspiracy theorists will find 1% of 1% of something that seems weird and build a conspiracy around it, but their theories will be like 40% fabrications and they just fucking ignore it. I can't even tell you how many times I've seen that meme posted about the Vegas shooting that says Paddock "removed" the "hurricane proof glass" (which isn't even a thing) and they leverage that into making people go "woah hold up, how did he do that???" They ignore that the glass was clearly smashed apart from multiple photos inside and out, and inside the hotel room was clearly visible a mallet or splitting maul he used to do the deed.
They just lie like that. And nobody can tell me why.
Like goddamn tell me what a BB-18 fuse holder is. Can you? Because it's central to many 9/11 troofer arguments.
Dude most conspiracy theories are retarded.
There's a reason the demographic who falls for them the hardest are like fat idiots who fry food and drive trucks, and aren't, like, physicists.
The biggest doubt is how if you were to accept their theory as true (about anything) there should be more avenues for investigation. Like let's say you believe explosives were planted in WTC7. Okay... squinting at pixels isn't an investigation. Nor is snipping one sentence from a news broadcast. An investigation would be:
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How did the whole building get rigged for explosives when that would involve a lot of clandestine work?
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Is there evidence of heavy maintenance or renovations being performed? Invoices, anything like that?
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Is there evidence of heavy amounts of trucks and labor being performed on the site in the weeks leading up to it?
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Have companies that supply demolition explosives been investigated to see if they were selling explosives to fake companies for demolition work that was never performed, which would be how they were acquired?
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Did any employees in there get questioned and say anything about large amounts of construction noise and whole floors being closed off?
I mean, that's what the fuck an investigation would entail.
Instead they literally just squint at videos and talk about "free fall", even though that doesn't make sense by their own logic. They never actually investigate. They don't do lab tests or try to acquire physical evidence for testing. It's just fat rednecks too poor to leave their trailers.
I've had multiple people claim that the Curiosity rover isn't on Mars, but some island in Canada. Okay so did any of them buy a plane ticket and rent a canoe and go find the island? Nah. Not a single fucking person could bother to make the trip even though it would prove everything.
Why not?
The "best" they did was that one guy running a "simulation" on his home computer that looked like Donkey Kong and wasn't even a model of the actual building.
Conspiracy theories never stand up to questions either. In fact the visceral reaction from them is worse than any reaction you get from "questioning" the "official narrative".
This excuse is boring copium, it's not just one or two moonbats crowing about this stuff it's a fuck load of people and it's all over the right.
I could write pages on this.
In short I have an incredibly low opinion of conspiracy theorists on that kind of shit. They're really stupid, they genuinely know next to nothing of facts (and I think that's by design, I genuinely think they outright reject any material that could cart doubt on their bullshit and pretend the evidence doesn't exist), they will outright lie to you, and worst of all, if you simply treat their theory to the same inquiries they claim they used against the official story, they get really REALLY fucking mad.
Every "debate" with a CT ends with them screaming insane insults and pulling out Ol' Reliable: "I bet you believe CNN/I bet you got boosted/STFU fed shill."
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Conspiracy theory makes sense when you realize not one of these people analyzed a story and came to a unique conclusion. They literally come up with a conspiracy first, then try to find "evidence " that proves it. Which is why they will scour 900 photos of something, pick out one that maybe kind of sorta looks weird, and delete the rest and pretend they never saw it.
If you show a Pentagon Missile Theorist the main landing gear assembly wedged in the rubble they just declare it a fake. If you show them the light poles they say it is photoshopped. If you show them the debris and ask how it got there they invent really stupid explanations like "everybody ran out of the Pentagon and threw it in the grass".
The worst is the moon landing hoaxers. They say the Van Allen belts prevent humans from leaving low orbit.
Except:
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They don't know what the belts actually are.
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They have never measured them.
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They only "know" they exist because space agencies say so, and so they believe the belts are real because they say so.
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When those same agencies say the energy levels aren't dangerously high if you go through them fast enough, or go around them, suddenly they don't believe them.
You can't explain that except "cognitive dissonance" on a level that may be untreatable. That is insane. NASA says a belt of radiation exists, and the CTs believe NASA. NASA says the radiation levels are low enough to traverse, they then don't believe them, even though not one single CT has ever measured the belts themselves.
Only tangential but I like the idea of color-coded tools, so you can buy a set of all one color theme and you always know which tools are yours. Obviously can't work well with thing like a socket but still.
The problem is women lack the part of the brain that can process cause and effect so they will never "get it".
Did it make those irritating noises fox make?
He'll be the strongest and toughest on the commune and end up conquering them all.
Kudos to the one guy saying he just likes work and a simple life and will do hard labor. Presumably the only laborer for the three hundred social workers who are all watering the garden.
Not when it's a bloated or diseased, unless you want to feed it to Haitians.
You are making my point for me here to the extent that I'm losing sight of what your point is. Because, how do we know everything you just said actually happened? Because they fucked it up. Someone spilled the beans. Someone left the wrong document somewhere. Something went wrong. A cursory investigation opened up a can of worms. Actual evidence was left behind.
What do conspiracy theories (not conspiracy facts) all have in common? Nothing has ever gone wrong. Nobody has ever leaked. Not a single stray piece of material was left out of place. Even conspiracies involving THOUSANDS of people who 100% would've known they were involved with something after the plot (like lmao how many people would've been told to strap Loony Toons dynamite bundles to the WTC on 9/10 but then went 'oh that had nothing to do with me' on 9/11?) all magically just stay completely mum for decades and decades.
The number of conspiracy theories that have become conspiracy fact is almost zero, despite what they like to claim. Many "conspiracy theories" they take credit for were never actual theories at the time (Iraq WMDs), and a bunch of them (like Gulf of Tonkin) was broken by CONGRESS.
I literally just judge conspiracy theories by the exact same standard of proof any conspiracy theorist uses to "doubt" the official narrative. How the hell is that in any way wrong?
If conspiracy theorists don't need any actual reason to think any given mass shooting was a 'false flag' (need I remind you, go to ANY thread on a breaking news mass shooting on this entire website and the first comments are literally all claiming 'fed'), or even something like that crazy nutjob who drove his truck into DC and threw money everywhere (was also declared a fed plot with literally no reason to think so), why should I need a "reason" to doubt a conspiracy?
But I don't even sink to the disgusting depths of sewage CTs love to sink to on that point. I at least ascribe the same rational 'doubts' they do.
But when it comes to the official story versus conspiracy theory, guess what, there's only one group that isn't willing to engage at all. And no, it's not "believers". We know it's not "believers" because probably thousands of websites exist where people who believe the official narrative spend enormous amounts of time debunking CT claims.
What do CTs do?
They literally just shout 'faggot kill yourself'.