The interesting thing is that black families that haven't bought into thug culture (as in, they do that whole nuclear family thing) generally turn out very successful. You don't have upstanding citizens getting gunned down by police in the US.
Having both parents, staying in school and out of trouble, and not having a child until you're married are the tickets to prosperity that anyone can grasp if they wanted.
There is an argument to be made that the very existence of "thug culture" is behind that too. Simply because affluent kids love to rebel.
When Brayden the suburb kid rebels, he has to join pot smoking marxists who used to be harmless if stupid. When Traymichael rebels he joins a street gang, and ends up in the cycle anyway.
Something about it just draws them in even when they have none of the generic excuses to do so.
The problem is that poor white kids only resort to behavior that results in prison time around 2.7% of the time. That's a pretty massive discrepancy. If the best conditions in the development of black kids produce results 4x worse than the worst conditions for white kids... well, it should at least make you go 'hmmm'.
There's the tired argument of black kids being arrested more than white kids due to systemic racism (which I really don't think you ascribe to), but all you have to do is look at homicide, a crime that is highly unlikely to show racial bias, and the idea that it's systemic bias falls apart.
That's the point I was getting at. There is a specific aspect of black lives, in this case I am putting forth the "thug culture", that makes them act criminally or worse regardless of factors that would normally decrease such results.
Something draws them to it that is not doing so for other groups, and that might be the root cause of all their problems.
Well yeah, that's why I said there is an argument to be made in favor of said theory. All we have are many different hypothesis because there are too many factors to properly nail down exact science.
A beneficial culture can do wonders for basically anyone. It's the reason why New England protestants, imposing a protestant-work-ethic culture, came to the south and helped blacks achieve a literacy rate from nearly 0% (as required by law) to near 50 % after a few decades.
Black Rednecks have culturally appropriated Cracker Culture, it's been instilled in them by racialists that the worst aspects of a shitty white culture, are somehow uniquely black. Why? Because it's easier to control people when they are dependent, malleable, have a lack of agency, and are emotionally incontinent.
The interesting thing is that black families that haven't bought into thug culture (as in, they do that whole nuclear family thing) generally turn out very successful. You don't have upstanding citizens getting gunned down by police in the US.
Having both parents, staying in school and out of trouble, and not having a child until you're married are the tickets to prosperity that anyone can grasp if they wanted.
Kind of depends on your yardstick for "very successful". Around 10% of blacks born into affluent households end up in prison at some point.
There is an argument to be made that the very existence of "thug culture" is behind that too. Simply because affluent kids love to rebel.
When Brayden the suburb kid rebels, he has to join pot smoking marxists who used to be harmless if stupid. When Traymichael rebels he joins a street gang, and ends up in the cycle anyway.
Something about it just draws them in even when they have none of the generic excuses to do so.
The problem is that poor white kids only resort to behavior that results in prison time around 2.7% of the time. That's a pretty massive discrepancy. If the best conditions in the development of black kids produce results 4x worse than the worst conditions for white kids... well, it should at least make you go 'hmmm'.
There's the tired argument of black kids being arrested more than white kids due to systemic racism (which I really don't think you ascribe to), but all you have to do is look at homicide, a crime that is highly unlikely to show racial bias, and the idea that it's systemic bias falls apart.
That's the point I was getting at. There is a specific aspect of black lives, in this case I am putting forth the "thug culture", that makes them act criminally or worse regardless of factors that would normally decrease such results.
Something draws them to it that is not doing so for other groups, and that might be the root cause of all their problems.
That's a hypothesis, sure, but that's all it is.
Well yeah, that's why I said there is an argument to be made in favor of said theory. All we have are many different hypothesis because there are too many factors to properly nail down exact science.
That's not interesting, it's obvious.
A beneficial culture can do wonders for basically anyone. It's the reason why New England protestants, imposing a protestant-work-ethic culture, came to the south and helped blacks achieve a literacy rate from nearly 0% (as required by law) to near 50 % after a few decades.
Black Rednecks have culturally appropriated Cracker Culture, it's been instilled in them by racialists that the worst aspects of a shitty white culture, are somehow uniquely black. Why? Because it's easier to control people when they are dependent, malleable, have a lack of agency, and are emotionally incontinent.