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– lgbtqwtfbbq 16 points 5 years ago +16 / -0

I have no idea why Jews keep agitating like this

People like Eric Weinstein explain why all the time: Jews frequently consider themselves "strangers in a strange land" and therefore are sympathetic to other outsider groups and as a result advocate for inclusive "big tent" policies.

Those "true believers" who genuinely believe what I've written above I think also believe that this will engender goodwill between Jews and those other groups. On this I think they are wrong, and that they will be the sort yelling "we're on your side!" as bricks are thrown through their windows.

I'm guessing that the fail safe plan is to bail out to Israel if things go hot

Will Israel even want them though? Sure they're Jews, but they won't be culturally Israeli. And Israel's a small nation which may not be able to contain all the people wishing to return if things go hot. Who's to say they don't change their laws related to "right of return" to make it more difficult/impossible to get citizenship?

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– Gizortnik 10 points 5 years ago +10 / -0

Will Israel even want them though?

Fuck no, these SJW Jews are actively siding with Islamists. The Israelis aren't about to tear down their Iron Dome program because it's "racist & xenophobic".

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– mikhalych 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

People like Eric Weinstein explain why all the time: Jews frequently consider themselves "strangers in a strange land" and therefore are sympathetic to other outsider groups and as a result advocate for inclusive "big tent" policies.

And people ignore it because it is damn hard to believe. They're suposed to be smart, how come they can't see that there is no redeeming themselves in the eyes of their sworn enemies? This really sounds like the kind of explanation you don't even believe yourself, that you spit out when you feel like you have to say something. If anything, Weinstein sounds like he's trying to convince himself when he says that.

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– lgbtqwtfbbq 9 points 5 years ago +9 / -0

They're suposed to be smart, how come they can't see that there is no redeeming themselves in the eyes of their sworn enemies?

How often do they live next to them? It's very possible to be smart but just plain ignorant on certain matters, and Weinstein strikes me as incredibly ignorant in this area (his political "solution" is "we need a STEM PhD philosopher-king". Great: every nation in human history probably would have benefited from a philosopher-king, but those are in extremely short supply. Now what?)

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– PalaeolithicRaccoon 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Wouldn't a philosopher king be one of the more likely types to want to run social experiments on his populace, though?

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– mikhalych 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

How often do they live next to them?

All those I've known have rather extended families they religiously keep track of. They can't not know. Maybe its sample bias on my part.

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– lolfail9001 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

They're suposed to be smart

IQ does not correlate with wisdom. That's not to say someone with IQ of a monkey can be wise, but even someone with 140 IQ can have stupid ideas all the time.

Ashkenazi Jews have above average IQ, but that's about it.

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– deleted 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0
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– Gizortnik 7 points 5 years ago +7 / -0

I think you're wildly underestimating the strength of Israel along with the incompetence of the Arab states.

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– AlwysHideUrPowerLevl 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Tbf, the Arab states are hell bent on eradicating Israel. (even though some pretend to be friendly for diplomatic purposes). It's literally the one thing that every Middle East muslim can agree on.

And the Islamic middle East has the manpower and geographic mass to sustain and supply a full scale, long term war. Israel would be (literally) fighting in their own backyards with a numerical disadvantage and nowhere to grow food or manufacture arms that isn't a battlefield.

If America ditches them and nobody else steps in, Israel is gone within 5 years.

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– realerfunction 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

i have a feeling in that kind of scenario israel wouldn't hesitate to use atomic fire. no one around them has that or the means to counter it. the closest, i think, is pakistan, and they're too busy with their hateboner for india.

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– Gizortnik 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

Again, same problems in your analysis. The Arab world hasn't been able to agree on that. They haven't had a unified front since prior to the 1967 war. The IDF & Mossad are capable of causing absolute havoc to all of Israel's neighbors. The US hasn't needed to step in to Israeli wars. None of them have managed to even last 5 years.

If this were a Hearts Of Iron game, sure, Israel would be screwed if you were playing as the Hafez al-Assad. But the world isn't like that. Furthermore, you couldn't even convince countries not to step in because Israel is an economic powerhouse.

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