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Robert’s and Barrett did as expected (twitter.com)
posted 10 hours ago by Ahaus667 10 hours ago by Ahaus667 +45 / -0
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– BeefyBelisarius 6 points 7 hours ago +6 / -0

Irrelevant, the purpose of that part of the amendment was to extend citizenship to the recently freed and the tribes living on US soil only.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 7 hours ago +1 / -0

It's very relevant. If you say that what the 'purpose' was, limits the amendment, then that means that only blacks are entitled to equal protection - if only they are entitled to citizenship by birth.

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– BeefyBelisarius 4 points 6 hours ago +4 / -0

No, because the sentence fragment you're hyper-focusing is part of a sentence that clearly specifies 'citizens' in the part of the sentence you're ignoring. Meanwhile, a totally different sentence adresses the anchor babies question. You're twisting things like a lawyer here.

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– AntonioOfVenice 1 point 6 hours ago +1 / -0

This?

All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside.

What exactly am I ignoring?

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– current_horror 5 points 6 hours ago +5 / -0

The part where men creating a nation never thought things would get so retarded that they would have to painstakingly detail basic concepts like nation and citizen. No one arguing your side of this debate legitimately thinks that any author of the constitution would ever condone birthright citizenship. It's a disingenuous debate hinging upon tortured semantics, and it is doubly infuriating coming from people who flout the constitution itself at every turn. Why are we even entertaining traitors who declare whole cities to be sanctuaries from the very laws they abuse?

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– BeefyBelisarius 3 points 6 hours ago +3 / -0

Subject to the jurisdiction thereof. This excluded citizens of other nations, who were subject to those jurisdictions. By the understanding of the time, it was a means to avoid having a bunch of stateless residents.

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