The way so many atheists carry themselves puts them down, and the historical reality that really an atheist society has never built anything.
This is one of the things I bring up often whenever I see an uneducated athiest (though, realistically, every athiest is uneducated) rag on religion and especially Christianity.
I remind them that they only have access to technology and the joys of convenience because of a Christian/Catholic WHITE nations that built it for them.
I asked one fellow what society was built out of a foundation of athiesm and he tried to argue that the modern CCP was built on athiestic foundations. I had to remind him that the CCP was built out of the remnants of the people's revolution, which itself, was built out of the nation-building religious foundations of Confucianism.
I also pointed out to him that the current CCP is crumbling under the weight of hedonistic materialism, and their birth rates are in the gutter and their economy is about to collapse, which basically shows that any established civilisation atheism inherits will quickly crumble due to the flimsy nature of moral relativity and the lack of higher sacrificial goals.
General idea for me, I was raised typical-ish southern Christian, but I went away from that. What brought me back to full Christian believer at least is exactly that, look around at the results of societies. Look which ones were successful. Look which sets of values the world was better off with.
Would I say I'm some perfect Christian, not in the slightest. I have a lot of disdain for the state of modern Christianity to the point I just can't have myself participate in a lot of what a typical outsider sees as Christian. There's so many who proclaim Christian left and right and have missed the point entirely.
I'd really have nothing to deal with atheists except for the ones that come around if you mention anything theistic, especially Christianity, and sprint right to "look how stupid you are, worshiping the imaginary skydaddy, I'm smart and educated and I know better than that." They interject themselves into the dialogue where it wasn't even necessary.
This is one of the things I bring up often whenever I see an uneducated athiest (though, realistically, every athiest is uneducated) rag on religion and especially Christianity.
I remind them that they only have access to technology and the joys of convenience because of a Christian/Catholic WHITE nations that built it for them.
I asked one fellow what society was built out of a foundation of athiesm and he tried to argue that the modern CCP was built on athiestic foundations. I had to remind him that the CCP was built out of the remnants of the people's revolution, which itself, was built out of the nation-building religious foundations of Confucianism.
I also pointed out to him that the current CCP is crumbling under the weight of hedonistic materialism, and their birth rates are in the gutter and their economy is about to collapse, which basically shows that any established civilisation atheism inherits will quickly crumble due to the flimsy nature of moral relativity and the lack of higher sacrificial goals.
General idea for me, I was raised typical-ish southern Christian, but I went away from that. What brought me back to full Christian believer at least is exactly that, look around at the results of societies. Look which ones were successful. Look which sets of values the world was better off with.
Would I say I'm some perfect Christian, not in the slightest. I have a lot of disdain for the state of modern Christianity to the point I just can't have myself participate in a lot of what a typical outsider sees as Christian. There's so many who proclaim Christian left and right and have missed the point entirely.
I'd really have nothing to deal with atheists except for the ones that come around if you mention anything theistic, especially Christianity, and sprint right to "look how stupid you are, worshiping the imaginary skydaddy, I'm smart and educated and I know better than that." They interject themselves into the dialogue where it wasn't even necessary.